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This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:33 pm
by allejo
The intention of this forum is to discuss the new league with a select few players in order to keep things on track and with as few interruptions/off topic replies as possible (we've mainly been good about that). It was decided for these posts to be public (once the league is launched) when it was created so the community can see what went into forming this new league; the current active threads will be locked and kept as an archive so players won't be able to go back and revive old posts, just read them.

A concern has been brought up that this forum should be kept private for the new league administration only because sensitive information may have been shared and have a separate forum be created for the public.

Let's have this be a decision for the committee members instead of a few admins bickering on the side...

Option 1
  • Keep these posts private for the new league administration and create a new public forum
Option 2
  • Make these posts public after the league is launched and create a separate forum for the new league administration
Deadline: By the time the league launches

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:57 pm
by kierra
Option 2: make it public
so that the bz community sees that this was a group effort on the part of many active players taking a role. That it was not a select few admins deciding things themselves. I feel its important for transparency. I don't really see sensitive or personal information shared. Create a separate forum for admin board.

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:53 am
by hj
Make it public. I don't even know why this subforum is private in the first place. We're the 30ish who earned the right to establish the new league while others didn't? It seems pretty ridiculous that they get a poll that we made without them and no other input, e.g. whether this should even be done.

This is the biggest issue I've had with this subforum.

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:36 am
by macsforme
Agreed to make it public. Hopefully alezakos' poll will be ready before too long so we can move forward with the voting.

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:15 am
by Monster
Make it public

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:23 pm
by sn0w_m0nkey
i vote for Option #2 and shared in its entirety.

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:40 pm
by Bullet Catcher
Make it public, but we can redact specific parts if necessary. Speak up soon if there is something you want to remain private.

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:21 am
by gorgomol
nothing to hide there , public post agreement

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:41 pm
by kajo
+1 Public

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:01 pm
by hj
Can we make this public now? I'm not a big fan of merging the leagues/creating its new structure and leadership behind the majority's back.

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:04 pm
by alezakos
The poll system is ready to go and discussions seem finished, so it's not a bad time to make this public. This post however advertised that the league forum would become public by the time the new league launches.

Is anyone against publicising this subforum right now?

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:04 am
by hj
Cool, let's make this public ASAP

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:25 pm
by macsforme
Prior to or at the same time this forum is made public, an announcement topic should be created with a concise explanation of what we are planning and giving a link to the player poll that alezakos created. I wrote up such a draft in the GU Admin forum, but with all that has transpired since then it is no longer suitable. It doesn't have to be complicated, but it should exist when this goes public to summarize the general idea.

When someone has created such a post, it will be made sticky (and maybe locked, to direct the conversations to the respective topics) and this forum will be made public.

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:52 pm
by hj
Over the past few months, there has been an effort led by GU and Ducati representatives to merge into a single, unified league. Simply put, the Ducati League seems to be all but dead and the GU League is persisting on life support. We hope to maximize activity and eliminate competition between two different leagues for the same player base by focusing all our efforts into one common goal.

While there have been a multitude of great ideas on what this league should offer, the players should ultimately decide what they want from their BZFlag experience. For this reason, a poll has been created so we can collectively decide how exactly this new league will be implemented. The poll includes questions such as the name of the new league, what maps it should include, how we should address current bans from existing leagues, and many others.

Special thanks go to allejo and alezakos, among many others, for working out much of the minutia, including updates to his League Overseer plugin and the new league website. allejo has specifically mentioned a statistic-recording element to League Overseer that should yield many exciting opportunities in this new league.



Good enough?

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:38 pm
by kierra
Looks good to me.

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:48 am
by quantum dot
Looks ok to me too.

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:58 am
by Monster
I like it, gogo! Will this only be a sticky on this forums or also visible as a server message on gu and duc servers?

Re: This Forum's Availability - Post League Launch

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:55 pm
by macsforme
Looks good, hrj. Please create a new post with that text, and a link to http://bzflag.helit.org/surveys/survey/1 at the bottom, and we will sticky it and make this forum public.

Thanks.