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Scrambled text in Windows 95

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:56 pm
by RobertB
In the cafeteria at work, they've put in a couple of old PCs with Windows 95. I was able to install BZFlag on each one and run it -- once. After that first session, when I attempt to run, all text is completely scrambled, with what appear to be random graphic elements.

The first thing I did was re-install BZFlag. No luck; same problem. I dinked with the screen resolution settings -- no luck there, either.

I downloaded Ad-Aware, but all it found was Alexa (I got rid of it anyway).

I've tried getting the latest ActiveX (8.0, the highest available for Win95) from Microsoft on both boxes. On one box, I downloaded new Matrox Millenium video card drivers -- they now report that the ActiveX version is too old (doh!).

The boxes are slow and jerky, but not laggy enough to upset anyone. Is there any way to get BZFlag to work on them?

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:18 pm
by Death Barrel
opengl? do you have it?

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:37 pm
by elmer fudd
its called WINDOWS 98!!! even that(ugh) would be an improvment. just get a cracked copy and give it to ur IT dept.
then OPENGL(thats important ppl) THEN MAYBE you will get decent preformance(not scarmbled characters)

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:39 pm
by blast
Hmm..you need to turn off texturing. Also, I assume you mean DirectX, because ActiveX would have nothing to do with this. BZFlag uses OpenGL for graphics, so my guess it that you don't have a video card or drivers that can do OpenGL. If you can run the game, you must have OpenGL.dll, just not hardware acceleration.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:44 pm
by RobertB
Death Barrel wrote:opengl? do you have it?
Actually, that's what I was trying to do when I reloaded the Matrox drivers. The OpenGL site said that each card mfg implements OpenGL in its own way, so you have to go through them. Any hints on how I should make sure I have the latest & greatest Win95 OpenGL for the hardware?

(If it's not painfully obvious by now, I haven't given much thought to graphics since the late '80s!)

As far as upgrading to Win98: yah, dats funny. I'm still afraid I'll get spanked for installing BZFlag in the first place, and you're telling me to slip the IT guy a bootleg Windoze CD? No thanks, I find employment in the IT industry to be a Good Thing, as opposed to the excitement of "Would you like fries with that?"

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:05 pm
by RobertB
blast wrote:Hmm..you need to turn off texturing. Also, I assume you mean DirectX, because ActiveX would have nothing to do with this. BZFlag uses OpenGL for graphics, so my guess it that you don't have a video card or drivers that can do OpenGL. If you can run the game, you must have OpenGL.dll, just not hardware acceleration.
Oops, yeah that should have been DirectX.

How do I turn off texturing without being able to read the text on the configuration screen?

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:36 pm
by elmer fudd
lol
1st: i missed the at work part

2nd: we dont know what model/how old the vdeo card is so we cant really help in a pecific way.

3rd: are cracked copies of win98 even bootleg anymore? microsoft doesnt even support it anymore...

4th: Start -> Find -> Files or Folders... -> find OpenGL.dll

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:44 pm
by blast
He has OpenGL.dll, or else he wouldn't be able to launch the program.

To turn off the textures, start notepad and open:
C:\my documents\my bzflag files\bzflag19.bzc

Then search for the "set texture" line, remove it, and save. Run the game and it should fix it. Also, as elmer said, could you give us the exact model of your video card so we can determine if it even supports OpenGL?

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:38 pm
by RobertB
w00t!

I found the file and deleted the offending line. No effect. Doh!

So I renamed the file and ran BZFlag. Success! It works! I didn't have much in the way of settings
I couldn't live without, anyway -- just swapping "jump" and "drop flag".

Now to do something about the 200ms lag. :)

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:01 am
by elmer fudd
200 isnt so bad
what fps do you have?