BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

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BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by trpted » Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:25 am

At /var/log/kernel.log I got this

Oct 24 20:44:41 pc-name kernel: [29526.451905] bzflag[4274]: segfault at 0 ip 081b83b9 sp bf955df0 error 4 in bzflag[8048000+250000]
Do you have any ideas of how to fix it so this does not happen anymore?

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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by macsforme » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:26 am

What operating system/distribution? What version of BZFlag? What triggers the crash, or where does it occur? Does it occur every time or intermittently? Have you tried to run bzflag in a debugger (or loaded the core dump) to try to determine where it is crashing?

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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by trpted » Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:44 pm

#1
Constitution wrote:What operating system/distribution?
a) This is the output from uname -a
Linux pc-name 3.19.0-32-generic #37~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 22 09:37:25 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
b) This is the output from lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
Release: 14.04
Codename: trusty

c) While I got that output, it is Lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS

#2
Constitution wrote:What version of BZFlag?
This is the output from bzflag -version
BZFlag client 2.4.3.20150825-DEVEL-linux-gnu-SDL (protocol 0221) http://BZFlag.org/
Copyright (c) 1993-2015 Tim Riker
#3
Constitution wrote:What triggers the crash, or where does it occur?
Unknown/not understanding.

#4
Constitution wrote:Does it occur every time or intermittently?
Every time

#5a
Constitution wrote:Have you tried to run bzflag in a debugger to try to determine where it is crashing?
No. How do I do that? What debugger would you recommend?

#5b
Constitution wrote:Have you tried to loaded the core dump to try to determine where it is crashing?
No. How do I do that? Where is that?

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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by Tzeentch » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:09 pm

happens on Solaris as well... viewtopic.php?f=93&t=19111 last 2 comments
more or less grey

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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by trpted » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:59 am

Tzeentch wrote:happens on Solaris as well... viewtopic.php?f=93&t=19111 last 2 comments
It happens on the client side. I have no idea at this time how to debug the client side.

I will check the server side (what that thread of yours is about), if it happens too.

[EDIT] Nope, seems fine here.

$ bzfs -dd -ms 5 -j
ColDet Octree obstacles = 35
grid extent[0] = -407.138885, 440.766479
grid extent[1] = -431.300720, 416.604645
grid extent[2] = 0.000000, 847.905396
world extent[0] = -407.138885, 440.766479
world extent[1] = -425.968781, 411.272705
world extent[2] = 0.000000, 10.250000
ColDet Octree leaf nodes = 25
ColDet Octree total nodes = 35
ColDet Octree total elements = 57
Collision Octree processed in 0.003 seconds.
Map size: uncompressed = 1203, compressed = 602
Note: no acceleration limit has been set. Players using "mouse
enhancements" may cause problems on this server due to very high
acceleration rates which are not handled well by dead reckoning
algorithms. To eliminate this warning, set the -a switch in your
configuration. '-a 50 38' is recommended for standard-speed servers.
Higher speed servers will need higher values for -a in order to not
affect gameplay. '-a 0 0' may be used to shut this message up without
affecting any players, including those using "mouse enhancements".
type: 0
teamed free-for-all
options: 18
jumping allowed
There is a voting arbiter with the following settings:
vote time is 60 seconds
veto time is 2 seconds
votes required are 2
vote percentage necessary is 50.099998
vote repeat time is 300 seconds
available voters is initially set to 200
Running a private server with the following settings:
listening on 0.0.0.0:5154
with title of ""
LIBCURL version: libcurl/7.35.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1f zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.28 librtmp/2.3
^CShutting down server: uptime 34 secs

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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by trpted » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:12 am

I have no idea at this time how to debug the client side.
I take that back.

#1 Please tell me if I need to add one more d after the minus sign. Thanks.

#2 Command and some output
bzflag -dddd >> /home/my-user-name/Desktop/logs/log.txt
* Hostname was NOT found in DNS cache
* Trying 192.169.83.30...
* Connected to bzflag.org (192.169.83.30) port 443 (#0)
* successfully set certificate verify locations:
* CAfile: none
CApath: /etc/ssl/certs
* SSL connection using ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
* Server certificate:
* subject: OU=Domain Control Validated; OU=PositiveSSL Wildcard; CN=*.bzflag.org
* start date: 2015-08-12 00:00:00 GMT
* expire date: 2016-08-11 23:59:59 GMT
* subjectAltName: bzflag.org matched
* issuer: C=GB; ST=Greater Manchester; L=Salford; O=COMODO CA Limited; CN=COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA
* SSL certificate verify ok.
> GET /motd.php HTTP/1.1
Host: bzflag.org
Accept: */*

< HTTP/1.1 200 OK
< Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 02:09:45 GMT
* Server Apache is not blacklisted
< Server: Apache
< Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=sacnhhg9bfk9koijiq51o42q51; path=/
< Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
< Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0
< Pragma: no-cache
< Vary: Accept-Encoding
< Content-Length: 2231
< Content-Type: text/plain
<
* Closing connection 0
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
#3 More output from file..
Opened event device /dev/input/event3 as read-write.
Device /dev/input/event3 doesn't seem to be a joystick. Skipping.
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Device /dev/input/event2 doesn't seem to be a joystick. Skipping.
Opened event device /dev/input/event1 as read-write.
Device /dev/input/event1 doesn't seem to be a joystick. Skipping.
Opened event device /dev/input/event0 as read-write.
Device /dev/input/event0 doesn't seem to be a joystick. Skipping.
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BZFlag protocol: 0221
OpenGL vendor: VMware, Inc.
OpenGL version: 3.0 Mesa 10.5.9
OpenGL renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.6, 128 bits)
Depth Buffer: 24 bitplanes
LIBCURL version: libcurl/7.35.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1f zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.28 librtmp/2.3
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Unmapped Locale String: Up/Down arrows to move, Enter to select, Esc to dismiss
Unmapped Locale String: Join Game
Unmapped Locale String: Options
Unmapped Locale String: Save Settings
Unmapped Locale String: Help
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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by macsforme » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:49 am

It appears that you are running outdated development code. So, even though this does not appear to be the primary issue, please update to the latest development code, re-build, and try again.

You can start bzflag in a debugger by executing something like "gdb bzflag", then typing "run<return>", then after it crashes, you can type "bt<return>" to get the backtrace of where the crash occurred.

Based on the logs you provided, it appears that you possibly do not have OpenGL support correctly configured on your system. You may want to make sure that you have drivers installed for your GPU. You might want to take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers

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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by trpted » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:40 pm

Constitution wrote: Based on the logs you provided, it appears that you possibly do not have OpenGL support correctly configured on your system. You may want to make sure that you have drivers installed for your GPU. You might want to take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers
Ok, how does one know what driver to install?

If you need/want any other info, please post.

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clock: 333MHz (3.0ns)
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vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 100
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version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: driver=agpgart-intel
resources: irq:0 memory:f8000000-fbffffff
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vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
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width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
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vendor: Intel Corporation
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vendor: Intel Corporation
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version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
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vendor: Intel Corporation
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bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
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configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:18 ioport:ec00(size=32)
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vendor: Intel Corporation
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width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
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vendor: Intel Corporation
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version: 82
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
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vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
version: 50
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: storage pm bus_master cap_list rom
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version: 82
serial: 00:07:e9:**:**:**
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capacity: 100Mbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
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resources: irq:20 memory:ff9ef000-ff9effff ioport:df00(size=64)
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vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master
configuration: driver=lpc_ich latency=0
resources: irq:0
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.1
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ide bus_master
configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=0
resources: irq:18 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:ffa0(size=16) memory:40000000-400003ff
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vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: latency=0
resources: ioport:e000(size=32)
*-multimedia
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product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.5
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.5
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_intel8x0 latency=0
resources: irq:17 ioport:e400(size=256) ioport:e080(size=64) memory:ffaff800-ffaff9ff memory:ffaff400-ffaff4ff
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vendor: Western Digital
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vendor: ASUS
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bus info: scsi@1:0.1.0
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vendor: Maxtor
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bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sdb
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serial: *****
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vendor: Linux
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serial: *****
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capacity: 298GiB
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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by trpted » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:01 pm

I will check the server side (what that thread of yours is about), if it happens too.

[EDIT] Nope, seems fine here.
I take that back.

For example when I load the test.bzw file from http://www.icosaedro.it/bze/ it crashes, but other than that it is working/works.
(line 51): unknown object parameter "delay" - skipping
Note: no acceleration limit has been set.. <Snipped>
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Note I think arena.bzw from that URL too.

Now going back to that test.bzw file from that URL, if I add a pound sign in front of delay, it works. Unsure why that is and I am not to worried about it, either..

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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by blast » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:58 pm

The Radeon 7000 is very old card (about 15 years), so the binary fglrx driver in today's distributions no longer supports it. So, do not try to install fglrx, it will not work at all. I'd have thought that the open source radeon driver would have been active, though, especially on Ubuntu (which does not have a separate nonfree firmware package like Debian does).
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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by Tzeentch » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:41 pm

I'd advise you get an nvidia 750ti. 60w usage, plugs into PCI-e and does not require PCI-e power connectors. 2G GDDR5 as well.
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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by trpted » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:49 pm

blast wrote:The Radeon 7000 is very old card (about 15 years), so the binary fglrx driver in today's distributions no longer supports it. So, do not try to install fglrx, it will not work at all. I'd have thought that the open source radeon driver would have been active, though, especially on Ubuntu (which does not have a separate nonfree firmware package like Debian does).
#1 I thought they did..

#2 If you were to recommend a different distro that is light weight, which one would you recommend?

Some note about my question, so you can answer it.

a) I prefer one with a GUI - not command line only.

b) This is not to say that it can not be command line only by default, as long as there is/are wiki, guides, forums to help me get what I want to know/get to.

c) I prefer one that is a live CD/DVD /jump drive. This is not to say that it can not be install first..

d) If you can not recommend a light weight one with a GUI, then which one would you recommend?

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[EDIT] A simple google (or other online search engine) for nonfree firmware package Ubuntu, for example pointed me to http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywo ... re-nonfree

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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by blast » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:02 am

The non-free firmware package for Ubuntu doesn't contain your GPU's firmware though. The normal linux-firmware package does. This is in contrast to Debian where they consider more of the firmware to be "non-free".

Tzeentch, they are using a Radeon 7000, not talking about the Radeon HD 7000 series, interfaced using AGP, thus no PCI-e slots. The system probably predates the existence of PCI-e by a couple years.
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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by Tzeentch » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:24 pm

wow that is old, I'd say just get new hardware and bin the old. OS on client side I found Lubuntu decent. (uses lxde as the desktop environment) so this is lightweight whilst Debian based (if you must)

I'd have to ask why support something so out of date. I estimate it is around year 2001 based hardware. DDR.. + intel Pentium 4 hints that. Newer hardware may be significantly faster and same time could save on running costs in the long run. Why not get new hardware?
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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by trpted » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:31 pm

Ok.

Do you suggest that with this computer I, use it as only a server for BZFlag OR use it for a different purpose (two examples come to mind: As NAT router, as a NAS) ??

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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by Tzeentch » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:48 pm

I just meant sell it, get rid of it and use something newer. I'd only use a router as a router. If you require more capabilites then simply buy a more up to date or higher spec router (i.e. Billion routers are good)

With NAS you want it reliable, I think that will be hard on such old components. And you would be limited to drive connections as well. How could you RAID it?
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Re: BZFLAG crash: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Post by blast » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:01 am

It wouldn't even be that useful as a router or a NAS as it's rather power hungry for the amount of performance it actually provides.
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