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as you all know and have heard me complain my machine always ALWAYS crashes on some servers. details;

Nothing else running, still crashes!
The game THPS4 (Tony Hawk Proskater 4) came with my machine (IBook g4) and it always crashes, once another game that came with it crashed but only once.

handicaps;
have to go to only 3 or 4 or 2 servers :cry: ;
gu.de (no crash so far)
ducati and match servers
Cannot go to specific servers (they crash!);
My server BZRox.Game-Host.Org:5155 :evil: :evil:
and Vipers server viper.pimpi.org:5159 :cry: :cry: :cry:
just now ducati crashed on me and this is NOT good at all! when my comp crashes on a server i tell you it don't stop! CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME?!?!?

I'll try to go2 apple but still.
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Once the mac I just bought comes in, I can make builds and test crashes.

what does it say when they crash?

what mac do you have?

video card? CPU? ram?

what version of OSX?
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well it doesn't say anything. and mine is teh only comp in the household that crashes we think. it just says nothing no noise no nothing just freeze doom. have to press power down and way :cry: .
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whoa! it kills the entire system when bzflag crashes?
or does it happen outside of bzflag?

also please provide the system info stated above.
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by sys info you mean the "about this mac" stuff?well....

Mac OS X
Version 10.3.5
Processor 1.2 GHz PowerPC G4
Memory 512 MB DDR SDRAM

now here comes the big stuff i am just copying from system profiler (i'm gonna leave out the cerial number ok?);

Hardware Overview:

Machine Model: iBook G4
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (1.1)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 1.2 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 512 MB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.8.5f0

Software in sys profile (gonna leave out username and computer name (to personal).);

System Software Overview:

System Version: Mac OS X 10.3.5 (7M34)
Kernel Version: Darwin 7.5.0
Boot Volume: compname
Computer Name: compname
User Name: usrname (usrname)

. and yes it does "just crash the whole system" whole thing ok so mabye it does repeat the current sound for 10 secs but then it goes flomp and no superqit or anything'll work. but not only on bzflag also on 1 screensaver and 2 other games. Mabye my computer has trouble with full screen?
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oh no it doesn't have tboule with full screen now i remember. a game called KIKI crashed its just a simpel game and it was in windowed mode and no change of res but it crashed and that was weird to see the system and just have it go *birdies* you know?
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oh yes it does have fullscreen problems mabye cause when i played KIKI in full screen it crashed but not in windowed mode.
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are you using v1.10.8 or v1.10.6 of BZFlag, because I found that 1.10.8 doesn't work properly on OS X (10.2.6) but 1.10.6 does.
Darkness called… But I was on the phone, so I missed him. I tried to *69 Darkness, but his machine picked up. I yelled "PICK UP THE PHONE, DARKNESS!', but he ignored me. Darkness must have been screening his calls.
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Scorch I think your ibook has hardware video issues.

you can run bzflag in a window use -window -geometry 800x600 from the command line.

If things other then BZ are crashing you, and killing the entire system, then it's something ether in your OS or the hardware. and that we can not do anything about.
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both versions crash for me. no i cant do windowed i already said i have a mac!
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Scorch wrote:both versions crash for me. no i cant do windowed i already said i have a mac!
yes you can do windowed, you need to go into BZFlag with terminal

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cd [folders before BZFlag]/BZFlag\-1\.10\.6.app/Contents/MacOS
./BZFlag -window -geometry 800x600
Darkness called… But I was on the phone, so I missed him. I tried to *69 Darkness, but his machine picked up. I yelled "PICK UP THE PHONE, DARKNESS!', but he ignored me. Darkness must have been screening his calls.
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yes, windowed is a bz thing and your mac has a command line terminal
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Patlabor221 wrote:Scorch I think your ibook has hardware video issues.
If you still have all the discs that came with your computer, you can test if this is the problem. One of them should be a hardware test cd that you can boot from and make sure everything is running alright. With any luck, you don't have a bad logic board, but it can be replaced for free if you still have AppleCare support.

Wow, I remember Kiki The Nanobot, that thing was so much fun....
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yes kiki the nanobot it was. i think i already did a hardware check. no windowed mode doesn't work on a mac unless they canged something in 1.10.8.
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holy *! *blink**blink* figure this one out!

/Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos/bzflag -window
setSize was called with 1024 x 768
----------------------------------------------------------------
Vendor: "ATI Technologies Inc."
Renderer: "ATI Radeon 9200 OpenGL Engine"
Version: "1.3 ATI-1.3.28"
Extensions:
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix
GL_ARB_vertex_program
GL_ARB_vertex_blend
GL_ARB_window_pos
GL_ARB_shader_objects
GL_ARB_vertex_shader
GL_ARB_fragment_shader
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint
GL_EXT_rescale_normal
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements
GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_APPLE_client_storage
GL_APPLE_specular_vector
GL_APPLE_transform_hint
GL_APPLE_packed_pixels
GL_APPLE_fence
GL_APPLE_vertex_array_object
GL_APPLE_vertex_program_evaluators
GL_APPLE_element_array
GL_APPLE_flush_render
GL_NV_texgen_reflection
GL_NV_light_max_exponent
GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap
GL_ARB_imaging
GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3
GL_ARB_multisample
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine
GL_ARB_texture_compression
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_occlusion_query
GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array
GL_EXT_texture_rectangle
GL_EXT_texture_env_add
GL_EXT_blend_color
GL_EXT_blend_minmax
GL_EXT_blend_subtract
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
GL_EXT_abgr
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
GL_EXT_secondary_color
GL_EXT_blend_func_separate
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate
GL_APPLE_ycbcr_422
GL_APPLE_vertex_array_range
GL_APPLE_texture_range
GL_APPLE_pixel_buffer
GL_NV_blend_square
GL_NV_fog_distance
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once
GL_ATI_text_fragment_shader
GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate
GL_ATI_blend_weighted_minmax
GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3
GL_ATI_array_rev_comps_in_4_bytes
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp
GL_SGIS_texture_lod
----------------------------------------------------------------
data path is "/Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos"
data path is "/Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos"
setSize was called with 256 x 610
----------------------------------------------------------------
Vendor: "ATI Technologies Inc."
Renderer: "ATI Radeon 9200 OpenGL Engine"
Version: "1.3 ATI-1.3.28"
Extensions:
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix
GL_ARB_vertex_program
GL_ARB_vertex_blend
GL_ARB_window_pos
GL_ARB_shader_objects
GL_ARB_vertex_shader
GL_ARB_fragment_shader
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint
GL_EXT_rescale_normal
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements
GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_APPLE_client_storage
GL_APPLE_specular_vector
GL_APPLE_transform_hint
GL_APPLE_packed_pixels
GL_APPLE_fence
GL_APPLE_vertex_array_object
GL_APPLE_vertex_program_evaluators
GL_APPLE_element_array
GL_APPLE_flush_render
GL_NV_texgen_reflection
GL_NV_light_max_exponent
GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap
GL_ARB_imaging
GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3
GL_ARB_multisample
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine
GL_ARB_texture_compression
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_occlusion_query
GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array
GL_EXT_texture_rectangle
GL_EXT_texture_env_add
GL_EXT_blend_color
GL_EXT_blend_minmax
GL_EXT_blend_subtract
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
GL_EXT_abgr
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
GL_EXT_secondary_color
GL_EXT_blend_func_separate
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate
GL_APPLE_ycbcr_422
GL_APPLE_vertex_array_range
GL_APPLE_texture_range
GL_APPLE_pixel_buffer
GL_NV_blend_square
GL_NV_fog_distance
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once
GL_ATI_text_fragment_shader
GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate
GL_ATI_blend_weighted_minmax
GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3
GL_ATI_array_rev_comps_in_4_bytes
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp
GL_SGIS_texture_lod
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Unable to locate [fire] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [explosion] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [ricochet] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [flag_grab] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [flag_drop] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [flag_won] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [flag_lost] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [flag_alert] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [jump] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [land] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [teleport] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [laser] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [shock] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [pop] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [explosion] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [flag_grab] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [boom] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [killteam] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [phantom] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [missile] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [lock] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [teamgrab] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [hunt] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [hunt_select] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [steamroller] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [thief] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [burrow] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [message_private] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [message_team] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
Unable to locate [message_admin] audio file (media dir is set to /Applications/bzflag/BZFlag-1.10.8.app/contents/macos)
WARNING: Unable to open audio data files
loading fixedmr
Can't continue without font: fixedmr
Failed to load resource because the 'data'
directory can't be found. Please run bzflag
with the data directory as the current directory
or provide the location of the data directory
using the -directory command line option.
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nevermind I got windowed mode to run! but it isn't any different from fullscreen! there is no WINDOW in WINDOWED MODE!
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dude calm down, no need to shout.

I'd just get your busted hardware looked at, or wait untill an SDL build can be made for you since your unable to build yourself.
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I've had a similar problem with this build (1.10.8 ). In fact, I've had three different incidences where BZF will either hard freeze my Cube (there's a joke in there somewhere),or BZF will crash.

There seems to be no rhyme or reason; the freeze happened when I attempted to join a server. It made the connection, but went no further. I had to force a reboot (very rare for me at least).

The quits happen while playing, again, no rhyme or reason. The last one happened while jumping and firing GMs. The one before that happened when I picked up a cloak flag. All on different maps.

Does BZF keep a log somewhere I can check?

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I logged it BIG! and all it said was 'looking at so&so with genocide' thanx im (sorta) glad to here someone else has this prob, mabye we can help each other out. im going to re-install my system, i sure hope it works. that's what the Genius Bar (stupid apple ppl :) ) said and if that doesn't work erase my disk and re-install (backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... backing up HD... etc.) AAAAAARGH!!
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turn off lighting

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Scorch wrote:nevermind I got windowed mode to run! but it isn't any different from fullscreen! there is no WINDOW in WINDOWED MODE!
This is normal for 1.10.* as windowed mode was never implemented for that version. Try turning off Lighting on the options menu. That should stop the crashes. The problem should be fixed (both the crashes and windowed mode) for 2.0 when it is released.
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nope, lighting aint it. i never play with lighting, and it just crashed.
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Scorch wrote:by sys info you mean the "about this mac" stuff?well....

Mac OS X
Version 10.3.5
Processor 1.2 GHz PowerPC G4
Memory 512 MB DDR SDRAM

now here comes the big stuff i am just copying from system profiler (i'm gonna leave out the cerial number ok?);

Hardware Overview:

Machine Model: iBook G4
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (1.1)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 1.2 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 512 MB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.8.5f0

Software in sys profile (gonna leave out username and computer name (to personal).);

System Software Overview:

System Version: Mac OS X 10.3.5 (7M34)
Kernel Version: Darwin 7.5.0
Boot Volume: compname
Computer Name: compname
User Name: usrname (usrname)

. and yes it does "just crash the whole system" whole thing ok so mabye it does repeat the current sound for 10 secs but then it goes flomp and no superqit or anything'll work. but not only on bzflag also on 1 screensaver and 2 other games. Mabye my computer has trouble with full screen?
Try with 10.3.7. I think that build is public now, but if not, ask me because I'm a apple beta tester. I had that same problem a few months ago, but when I updated it went fine. And assuming that your iBook didn't crash for the first few weeks when you started playing, try running a harddrive check. When you boot, hold down the Apple key and "S". And when it gives you the console, type fsck -y. If your computer has trouble with the screensavers and other games, try reinstalling the video driver. I assume its a ATI Radeon 9200, so just go to ATI's site and download the appropriate things.
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i downloaded 10.3.7 and it still crashes! ill try the ap+s thing but not for a while
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Scorch wrote:i downloaded 10.3.7 and it still crashes! ill try the ap+s thing but not for a while
You did disable lighting, yes? You need to disable lighting as that is most likely what is causing the crashes. (the fact that it's driver/card dependant is why the 10.3.7 update helped some people -- the problem is still the lighting).
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