The current usage of BZAdmin

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The current usage of BZAdmin

Post by Zehra » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:02 am

For those who still currently use BZAdmin from time to time, what are the main things you use it for?
Also, if anything could be added/removed to it, what would it be?

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Re: The current usage of BZAdmin

Post by trpted » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:19 pm

As to what the main thing(s) it is used for, points to a page at the bzflag wiki.

Bzflag wiki -> Client -> BZAdmin

I do not if anything could be added/removed to it as you requested.

As to why there is no link from Documentation or Help from the main site, I do not know for sure.

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Re: The current usage of BZAdmin

Post by Zehra » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:21 am

@trpted, please take more time to read posts for their meaning and context.
(The BZFlagWiki is additionally depreciated and much content is simply outdated there as well. So it is not recommended to cite, reference, link or quote it.)

For those who still currently use BZAdmin from time to time, what are the main things you use it for?
Extended translation: This post is mainly directed to anyone who does use the program titled/called "bzadmin" either frequently or infrequently. What tends to be the reason for your usage of the program? (Logging, automated actions, scripted actions..etc)

Also, if anything could be added/removed to it, what would it be?
If there was something which could be removed or added to the "bzadmin" program, what would be that thing wished to be seen added to "bzadmin" or removed from "bzadmin"?

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Re: The current usage of BZAdmin

Post by alfa1 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:47 pm

trpted: remember, always, there is the official documentation, which comes with the game (included files into the game directory/folders).

I think people use bzadmin as:
- an easy and low resources way to login on their own servers and check all the activity, being able to run commands to administrate it;
- for players: sometimes you can't (or don't want to) run a computer normally or a normal bzflag session (with graphics) then bzadmin is a good solution.

Console tools/programs, as bzadmin, are always useful and necessary. As a comparison to general operating systems use: you have both graphical programs and console programs; both are necessary; sometimes it's useful to use the former, other times, the latter.

Do you want more detail in my answer? According to private talk, if you are thinking on scripts or plug-ins, take into account not to repeat the work ("don't re-invent the wheel"). Though, if bzadmin has own bugs, they should just be fixed.

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Re: The current usage of BZAdmin

Post by Zehra » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:48 pm

Mostly, I'm interested in the usage of bzadmin by server owners or operators.
(Since some have mentioned using it for logging, compare to using the "logDetail" plug-in.)

This would indicate what could be improved or simply provided as an option for logging a server.
(Do people prefer "bzadmin" style logs over "logDetail"?)
(Do people like the ability to customize their logs in bzadmin, compare to logDetail?)

Also, for players, if it some things could be added or made as features or even integrations within the game client.
Simply with some info, it means new possibilities may exist.

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Re: The current usage of BZAdmin

Post by trpted » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:28 pm

Using http://www.bzstats.strayer.de/ AND OR https://bzlist.net/ I saw

#1 at Online Players for bzadmin that, that client is on bzfs.tuxee.net:5152, 5153, 5155 and 5156.

#2 and I found out who owns those servers. Server owner is cods (REF at these forums = memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1144). I PMed/IMed/DMed them in the hopes that they will reply to this thread of yours. ;)

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Re: The current usage of BZAdmin

Post by Zehra » Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:11 pm

Thanks trpted.

I'll soon be releasing something inspired by BZAdmin in the coming days.

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Re: The current usage of BZAdmin

Post by Cods » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:20 pm

Hi. Sorry for late reply. I use bzadmin as a way to track what is happening on the servers. I run them in a tmux (or screen). The benefits is that I don't need a graphical client to look at the activity (I can just use plain SSH).

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