Flags in CTF
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Flags in CTF
I know a lot of you like flags and all, but in a CTF, when flags are added, it tends to become more FFA like. Some exceptions are Viper and the two tanks But even then, most people are trying to get the highest score, not the most captured flags
Your thoughts?
Should we Have more no-flag CTF?
Should we have a plug-in that changes the scoring types for these maps?
Such as flags captured?
Your thoughts?
Should we Have more no-flag CTF?
Should we have a plug-in that changes the scoring types for these maps?
Such as flags captured?
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Should we have more than one sentence per line? What about less that than 4 questions per post?
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Perhaps you should try to add to the discussion instead of bashing people on the head about how they write, if you want to redesign the paragraph, then go ahead.
Or maybe you could at least says if your for or against it.
I, personally am against it but there are some exceptions
I mean SW on a CTF map is just not right
Or maybe you could at least says if your for or against it.
I, personally am against it but there are some exceptions
I mean SW on a CTF map is just not right
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its true to a certain degree its nice to have no flag games that are free of flags. if thats the case, join one of the many leagues that most of them are like that
but in my opinion, servers like boxy war and stuff, the whole time people (mainly admins) were saying 'this is a ctf server, stop worrying about personal score and start capping! teamwork!'.
in my opinion (and i understand i am most likely to get slaughtered for it) people play servers how they like to play it.
take boxy for example, there were many complaints about how people played it too much as an ffa, but to be honest i dont see why that is much of a problem. i know it is called ctf, but i dont mind the fact that capping took a back seat. the oppurtunity was there for those who wanted it but even though it was a ctf, people played it as an ffa, and enjoyed playing it as an ffa. why else would it be so popular?
if you want no flag ctf just go and find the whole host of leagues available to you that offer many types of no flag ctf. or if you are looking for fun without leagues, there are often hix maps up in the listserver, overlord and babel with no flags and also pillbox (usually hepcat).
obviously i'm not saying its a bad idea to make more, but i just dont think that having superflags in a ctf necessarily is a bad thing.
thats my 2 cents (3 judging by the length of the post )
feel free to slaughter me for my terrible opinions, and bag me out for using geno at old boxy.
but in my opinion, servers like boxy war and stuff, the whole time people (mainly admins) were saying 'this is a ctf server, stop worrying about personal score and start capping! teamwork!'.
in my opinion (and i understand i am most likely to get slaughtered for it) people play servers how they like to play it.
take boxy for example, there were many complaints about how people played it too much as an ffa, but to be honest i dont see why that is much of a problem. i know it is called ctf, but i dont mind the fact that capping took a back seat. the oppurtunity was there for those who wanted it but even though it was a ctf, people played it as an ffa, and enjoyed playing it as an ffa. why else would it be so popular?
if you want no flag ctf just go and find the whole host of leagues available to you that offer many types of no flag ctf. or if you are looking for fun without leagues, there are often hix maps up in the listserver, overlord and babel with no flags and also pillbox (usually hepcat).
obviously i'm not saying its a bad idea to make more, but i just dont think that having superflags in a ctf necessarily is a bad thing.
thats my 2 cents (3 judging by the length of the post )
feel free to slaughter me for my terrible opinions, and bag me out for using geno at old boxy.
Boxy was a camping server at the beginning and I think the CTF part is to kill all the campers at the same time.
I think CTF is good with some flags like thief or high speed to help capping or prevent from capping. Some flags have nothing to do with CTF (that's my opinion) like burrow. So I'm for flags but not all of them.
I think CTF is good with some flags like thief or high speed to help capping or prevent from capping. Some flags have nothing to do with CTF (that's my opinion) like burrow. So I'm for flags but not all of them.
I've found that different CTF maps sort of force me into certain strategies. Viper is a good example; it has a few superflags (and I'm happy whenever I get them), but I am usually am out there chasing either the other team's flag or fetching my own team's back to safety. Don't be surprised to see me there with a double-digit, negative score
On the "laser sniping" type maps, I'm usually hiding back there somewhere trying to irritate the other team... often with a double-digit *positive* score.
On the "laser sniping" type maps, I'm usually hiding back there somewhere trying to irritate the other team... often with a double-digit *positive* score.
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I think that it all depends upon the design of the map. A well designed map can make good use of superflags. Imagine Laser-Mania or Overlord without superflags. Both maps are made with them in mind. Both have excellent CTF play.
Compare that to a random Ducati style situation with a bunch of superflags. Doesn't work so well, does it?
Compare that to a random Ducati style situation with a bunch of superflags. Doesn't work so well, does it?
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Did you ever play on the old Boxy wars Capture the bacon.CUPCAKE wrote:I think that a lot more people would try to capture other teams flag if it were like the genocide flag: You get a point for each person on the other team that blew up when you captured their flag.
It was Blue vs Red but the two team flags were on a platform (around 5000 high if I remember well) and there was a purple flag in the middle. The two teams were fighting for the purple flag (bacon) and when you cap it kills both teams (so there isn't a team camping at bacon after each cap) but player who capped the flag get points for every enemy killed. I noticed that when my score went up to 80 in less than 10 minutes.