What do you think of friendly fire?

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Do you like the friendly fire?

Yes!
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Not at all.
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What do you think of friendly fire?

Post by Arbiter » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:27 am

Do you accept the friendly fire? Do you think it's good that people can get killed by your own bullets? Please vote if you think this is important matter.
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Post by Spazzy McGee » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:52 am

are you trying to say "let's get rid of team killing by not letting our bullets hurt each other"??

in which case i would say "Terrible idea!!! that's part of the game. just becareful where you aim!"


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Post by Arbiter » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:59 am

No it's ok... and you're right. I want the advice of everyone... :D
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Post by khazhyk » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:08 am

this seems to be a popular topic , i've seen the same excact topic idea in serveral other posts. :)


Teamkilling is a part of the game, not a vary fun part, but it is part. I the middle of war sometimes things do get confuzing and people hurt people on they're side, same with bzflag, to a much smaller scale since you respawn though. Though purposeful teamkills make the game worse, removing teamkills would change the game too much.

i vote no for teamkilling to be impossible. but i still think this:


:twisted: :twisted: BOOM! too purposeful teamkillers :twisted: :twisted:


opps, i voted for the wrong one in the poll...
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Post by Arbiter » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:14 am

I'm really sorry if a post like this has already appeared...
:oops: I'm just a cadet.But you have a right point.
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Post by khazhyk » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:15 am

your a private! :D

hey, it's not a problem, i'm just saying alot of people think like you.
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Post by Hannibal » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:18 am

A bullet's a bullet. thats why I'm thinking of replacing all the bolts with a standard, gray bullet. maybe a flash of color showing something.
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Post by khazhyk » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:20 am

but then how would you know what team it is?
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Post by Sir Lance-A-Lot » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:23 am

If you took away teamkilling, players could fire in any direction as fast as they could reload without worrying about hitting a teammate. This would vastly defeat the purpose of the game, and in that would remove the joy of playing it.
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Post by cookiecutter » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:30 am

Hannibal wrote:A bullet's a bullet. thats why I'm thinking of replacing all the bolts with a standard, gray bullet. maybe a flash of color showing something.
What if a teammate has ST. This often keeps me from blowing away stealthed teammates
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Post by Hannibal » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:31 am

the tank colors would stay the same. all bullets do the same. dont they?
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Post by Night Crawler » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:46 am

I think that the bullet that we have now are okay, I don't see the interest to
change them... They represent bzflag, it like a trademark. Do you immagine
how many people will have to change their signature because the bullet are
not the same anymore :D

Arbiter : No i dont see the interest of removing the teamkilling
because it's realistic and it's part of the game. I say no :!: Let's kill our allie
like we always did in the past years :roll:
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Post by Night Crawler » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:04 am

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Post by Night Crawler » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:11 am

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Post by Spazzy McGee » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:28 pm

Edit: Delete this post
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Post by Hannibal » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:12 pm

Spaz:you can do that. look by the 'edit' button

Im not saying change the bullets for all of BZ, just in my individual data folder. Thats if I can find the right image..
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Post by Ghost » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:01 pm

I think it is important for FF to be able to kill your teammates along with you, it help make the game more stragetic and fun,

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Post by Night Crawler » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:33 pm

Hannibal, are you saying that we can modify bz flag by ourself? Anyway I'm so dumb with code, I don't understand anything... :(

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Post by Hannibal » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:03 pm

you can change the textures of the game, yes. the shots, the ground, the pyramid textures, the wall. nearly everything is changeable.
<path to My Bzflag Files here>/data. in that folder, you should see 2 or 3 folders, and many .png images. the client uses these images to make the game you see on the screen.
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Post by Night Crawler » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:08 pm

If you do change something in your bzflag code, show it to me in a private message just to look at what you changed. Perhaps I will finally understand something :)
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Post by Hannibal » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:17 pm

It's not a change in the code. Doenst affect gameplay at all, just the appearance of the world on your screen.
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Post by ncrlahir8l09 » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:22 pm

Ok, the graphics aren't that well in this game, but that doesn't mean that you can obey all physic rules. I think friendly fire is part of a game: protect yourself and your team, attack the enemy but not your friends.

In tribes ("Tha good ol' time...") there were several servers where friendly fire wasn't a rules, you could just hit one without killing (if teammate). That was just a disaster for the gameplay.

ps: I must give in: I DO get mad at myself when tking (which would be in normal life too)

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Post by Night Crawler » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:17 pm

The thing that I really don't love with frendly fire is that, today, one of my
allie killed me becasue I take a geno flag that he whanted. I got first to
geno and he shot me because he was frustrated and he doesen't whant
me to have it.
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Post by Snapdeus » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:16 pm

night crawler, thats why you blow up if you team kill, its a punishment 8)

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Post by Spazzy McGee » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:49 pm

Hannibal wrote:Spaz:you can do that. look by the 'edit' button
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