What's your favorite brightness setting?

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What is your preferred brightness setting?

Near the bottom (dark)
1
7%
Near the middle (medium)
5
36%
Near the top (bright)
8
57%
 
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What's your favorite brightness setting?

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I don't know if it's just me, but on my computer, BZflag only looks right with the brightness setting all the way to the right.

When it's in the middle (which corresponds to a normal gamma ramp), the nighttime sky looks darker, but everything looks too dark and shadowed, and its too hard to see the tanks in the distance.
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My favorite brighness setting ...two candles ,a good bottle of vine and a wonderful /beautiful wife...
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Post by Merry »

lol, ok, you don't play like that do you?!? I like it bright.
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Post by Dervish »

Yes, the brightness settings for Windows clients should be turned way up, towards the right.

I don't know why they make the game's default lighting level so dark for OpenGL in Windows.
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On a related note, I think I've found a work-around for the windows bug in which your screen gramma gets all screwed up when you crash... (its related to the need for the brightness to be all the way to the right in window...).
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Post by Dervish »

That would be very cool. I have to restart my system in order to completely correct the problem when BZFlag crashes and doesn't reset gamma. I can change my gamma level, but it gets messed again when I load a DirectX or OpenGL app.

Please do let us know! :)
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Post by Spaceman Spiff »

Yeah!!!!! I HATE that bug. My bro has some sort of adjustment button on his monitor that corrects it.... but I don't have any such thing. :(
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missing option

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How about:

"My busted client doesn't have a brightess setting, you insensitive clod!"

/learner wanders off grumbling

But on the other hand.. the brightness is perfect as it is. ;)
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Poor poor learner... ;) Sorry bud... you chose Mac! LoL Okies... just playin' around. :D
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A workaround & fix

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This is a cheesy fix because it doesn't actually restore your original gamma values. However, if you're like most people, you probably have a simple 1.0 gamma ramp, and this fix will make things look relatively normal.

The problem is caused by the fact that windows BZ reads the gamma ramp at the beginning (which is typically near 1.0), then sets the gamma to a really high value (cause we're all setting the slider all the way to right). Then when it exits, it sets the gamma back to the stored value.

When it crashes, it leaves the gamma at the absurdly high setting. Then, when it runs again, it reads the "good" gamma settings (which are now wrong), sets the gamma to the same high setting (the game looks fine), and then restores the "saved" gamma settings (which are still high) when exiting.

There are two ways to fix this.

1) No programming required. Run BZFlag, move the brightness slider to the middle (which corresponds to a gamma setting of 1.0) and then do something which forces bzflag to crash (I'm sure one of you enterprising punks can suggest something).
Your desktop gamma should now look okay. The next time you run bzflag, move the brightness slider back to the right.

2. Programming required. Change the line in WinWindow.cxx that says:

setGammaRamps(origGammaRamps);
to this:
setGamma(1.0);

(This is what I did).

These are both easy kludges, but not really proper fixes, because they don't restore the gamma to exactly what it was. Two things that would make more sense in the long term:

1) Save the gamma settings to a file, and delete this file when doing a proper exit. Then when you start up, if this file still exists, you know there was an improper crash, and you read the gamma settings from the file, instead of from the videocard.
This will fix the gamma problem properly when you run the app
a second time.


2) Fix the graphics so that they look really good at a gamma setting of 1.0. In other words, things should look the most normal with the slider in the middle. This will help prevent the
"my monitor is all screwed up" problem in the first place.
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Post by DTRemenak »

If you're using an nVidia driver (not m$ provided) on windows, just going to display properties, clicking advanced, then on the tab that has your card's name on it (e.g. "GeForce 3 Ti 200") will restore your gamma settings to whatever you had them set to.
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Post by baddmove »

Is'nt it the gamma that turned that guy into the Hulk? like i need that on my invidia card..sheesh..big green ugly tank..like spiff or dervish..ah well.....
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Hey! We're not green! ;) Hehehe. :angel:
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Post by Legolas »

I voted medium because the high setting is way to bright!
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Post by Spaceman Spiff »

Actually..... the high setting is good at night. I don't have mine on THE highest.... but it's close. :)
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Re: A workaround & fix

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his blind ambition wrote: do something which forces bzflag to crash (I'm sure one of you enterprising punks can suggest something).
Does F12 still work? (I remember F12 used to crash 1.7e6)
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Post by Spaceman Spiff »

F12 is just the "quick exit"..... like pressing ALT+F4. :)
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Contrast -> all the way up

Brightness -> all the way up, then turn down until black is black.

Software gamma -> leave alone

That's how I set my monitor.
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Post by SGI »

Spiff wrote:
F12 is just the "quick exit"..... like pressing ALT+F4
My BZ still working after ALT+F4...just dissapear from the monitor but If Im checking in the task manager BZflag still running.

OHHHHHHHHHH wrong topic
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Post by M »

DTRemenak wrote:If you're using an nVidia driver (not m$ provided) on windows, just going to display properties, clicking advanced, then on the tab that has your card's name on it (e.g. "GeForce 3 Ti 200") will restore your gamma settings to whatever you had them set to.
For ati cards just go into the display properties and click advanced and then go into the color tab. That will fix the gama after it has been messed up.
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