Making a Map editor

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Making a Map editor

Post by Delta Lead » Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:02 pm

Ive seen all the map eidtorsand none of them do everything you want them to do or are extremely complicated and slow.

I would like to make an editor thats is not too complicated (like bzedit) and does many more things as well as adapt easily to any bzflag updates as well as support zone code (actually place flags in zones with the editor) as well as place meshes and more complicated things.

I know if someone made a program like this it would be a maricle.

I'd like to know how the heck you guys even make a program like bzworkbench or bzedit. It's way beyond me....
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Post by joevano » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:07 pm

First question, what is a "maricle"? ;)

BZworkbench is that application. We just need some developers to pick it up and complete it.

It is way beyond you right now, but with a little effort on your part it can be learned, You just need some c++ experience and a lot of determination and interaction with experienced developers to bounce around ideas.
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Hmm

Post by Delta Lead » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:37 pm

Yah well im a high school student so i might not have the time to dedicate this summer since it
's already over :wink:

If bzworkbench does that thenonce i figure it out ill try to help out =/ but by the time i get close enough tthat good to help it will be done =/

*looks out window* :cry: it's raining :cry: ...... Back to bzedit....
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Post by Winny » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:23 pm

You'll want to start learning C++, since that is what BZWorkBench is written in. I recommend this tutorial: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

You don't need to spend tons of time on it, maybe just spend 20-30 minutes a day, or an hour or two total every week going through, doing the tutorials.

After that you'll wanna work on some problem solving, and logical thinking. The most important part to programming is thinking logically. If you can't think of how to do it in C++, think of how you would do it in real life. Then adapt that to the programming language.

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Thanks

Post by Delta Lead » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:50 pm

Thank You For Your Help.

To bzedit Away!!

Must Finish Map.
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Post by clarahobbs » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:41 pm

Or, if you want, you could learn Python and help me with RatBZEdit. Python has much cleaner syntax than C++, and does not need to be compiled. However, C++ is a much more widely-used language. Make a decision. Now! Hurry! (Python. PLEASE!)
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Post by tw1sted » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:12 am

C++ is more widely used for applications (AFAIK anyway).

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It will take lots of hard work and patience to learn C++. You will probably have to spend more than one summer trying to learn it, possibly taking some high school courses on it or some college courses. I went to camp for two weeks to "learn" C++ and basically just learned the basics of it.

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Hmm

Post by Delta Lead » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:21 pm

Ill lean python, Anybody got any links??

I'd be mor ethen happy to help you ratfink as long as it doesn't intefere with me personal or scholl life.

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Post by Abominable » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:47 pm

Make sure you have a lot of patience and a lot of free time. It can get quite extensive.
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Re: Hmm

Post by Winny » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:49 pm

Delta Lead wrote:Ill lean python, Anybody got any links??
The main part of programming is solving problems. If you cannot find a Python tutorial by yourself, I don't think you'll be able to learn to program.

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Ok...

Post by Delta Lead » Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:23 pm

i already come up with hundreds of tutorials but im wondering if anybody has got one thats the best. I have already gone through like 2 and all it does is try to convince me how python is so easy. it doesn't reall do much else. BTW-I don't plan on becoming a programer. I have nearly enough time nor money. I have school and i do not plan on a career in the way of technology more in the lines of military bands/woodworking/firefighting and,or medical.
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Re: Ok...

Post by blast » Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:50 pm

Delta Lead wrote:i already come up with hundreds of tutorials but im wondering if anybody has got one thats the best. I have already gone through like 2 and all it does is try to convince me how python is so easy. it doesn't reall do much else. BTW-I don't plan on becoming a programer. I have nearly enough time nor money. I have school and i do not plan on a career in the way of technology more in the lines of military bands/woodworking/firefighting and,or medical.
Then I would recommend not spending months learning to program Python to the point where you can actually help make a map editor.
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