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Team controled auto guns.

Post by Bippwatt » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:56 am

Have like a MG turret that is fixed and auto shoots at enemy tanks.
You could also use:
Laser
Super Bullet
GM?
Or just basic guns.

Give them some sort of defense that weakens as it gets hit then it dies.
Or they get hit and die.

This might be nice for CTF....have to rely less on crap tons of tanks in the base....and it balances...10 guys on red and blue attack the other teams base and the auto guns defend.
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I would feel sorry for you, but the sound of my 500+ score is just too distracting.

Tanks. We made them so we wouldn't have put ourselves in needless danger...so what do we do? We make things that blow tanks up as easy as killing any infantry fool. We did that with jets too...and bows, and catapults and.....is anyone seeing a pattern? I am.

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Post by tobylane » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:33 pm

Nope, the current turret defence game up at the moment proves it a bad idea. It is either far too easy to one side and mean to the other, or requires out of the box thought and coding.

Relying on tanks? It's a tank game.

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Post by adameros » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:10 am

"requires out of the box thought"

This is a bad thing? O_o

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Post by tobylane » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:59 pm

Not at all, I just mean the only idea like this isn't good, so I'd expect a good result to be quite different, probably involving coding.

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Post by Quantum Tank » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:26 pm

Well, there are already world weapons that can probably be set up to "defend" a base, but they can't be controlled by tanks. There is also a plugin that allows players in a certain area to control a world weapon, like a turret (see the turret-based maps by Robbe or flying_popcorn to see what I mean). This plugin is still buggy and somewhat of a novelty but I think its pretty much what you're describing.

Also, world objects that can be damaged and killed will probably never happen (bzflag players are sometimes very picky about keeping the game simple).

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Post by Bippwatt » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:21 am

I don't want them to be controlled by a tank. I want them to be automatic. Like a World Weapon. Only it only shoots when it sees a tank that doesn't belong to the team that is belongs to.
Pure Rage is only useful when you have the Useless flag.

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I would feel sorry for you, but the sound of my 500+ score is just too distracting.

Tanks. We made them so we wouldn't have put ourselves in needless danger...so what do we do? We make things that blow tanks up as easy as killing any infantry fool. We did that with jets too...and bows, and catapults and.....is anyone seeing a pattern? I am.

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Post by lep » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:59 pm

So basically when the World Weapon spots you...BANG ur dead. No defense from it...not a great idea

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Post by Quantum Tank » Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:04 pm

Well littlelep if they're regular bullets you can easily dodge them.

Bippwatt I think that is also possible too. I remember a Hix dodge trainer that had ww's shoot at you only when you were in a specific zone. I suppose the plugin could be changed so that you can make it only shoot at a certain team.

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Post by lep » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:42 am

Sure but a laser weapon?
Sure an auto-shoot is good for dodge trainer...but only dodge training.
In CTF, there are 3 roles...you, the opponent, and the flag. worrying about another way to die is strategy-changing and just too much.

my opinion, and its not my choice.
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Post by gentle giant » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:28 am

Being a map maker i know that there are a ton of ways you could put this. I put a Weapon go off every 10 seconds in one of my maps, only for one area. You can also make lazors and bullets go off at a certain angle every 10 or so seconds also. And QT, i remember that hix dodge trainor and i guess according to that you can make a World Weapon of some sort go off when some tank goes into a zone. There are also a lot of games with Turrets. I remember that one on Bzbattleground when 6 turrets defend the flag. And also if im not mistaken Jefenry made a map with one also. So what you want would basically be a turret in a special position where your tank can reach it a kill a tank in a certain spot.

Now i wonder could there be a guided missle World Weapon? :)
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Post by Bambino » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:54 am

gentle giant wrote:Now i wonder could there be a guided missle World Weapon? :)
IIRC, someone (a dev?) did it with a BZFS mod. It can also be done with a plugin.
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Post by Strakowski » Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:31 am

If you just want turrets that aim themselves, it would be a fairly simple task to write a plugin for that (The bz_fireWorldWep function makes things easy). However, it could possibly be the most annoying plugin to every be compiled, so let's just keep this at a hypothetical stage.

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Post by Ragnarok » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:43 pm

What if tanks could pick up a turret flag and when they drop the flag, it starts building a turret. But it would take time for it to build a turret, so the person would have to defend the turret. If the other team gets to the turret and waits there for a while, then the turret will build itself, but for the other team. Also, the turret could be controlled by a person. They could get into the turret, aim and fire. And, the other team could snipe the guy out of the turret. And it could be set so that the turret falls apart after it is hit maybe 50 times, or after a few minutes.

Complexity added to the game would only make it more fun.
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Re: Team controled auto guns.

Post by Bambino » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:44 pm

This will never be added. You cannot change the physical layout of the map without restarting the server.

Complexity would only add confusion to the game. BZFlag is simple for the most part.
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