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Abolish player scores on ctf.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:37 pm
by Spazzy McGee
should there be an individual player score on CTF at all?

it's all about the team, so only show the team score, to discourage people just playing FFA on a CTF game.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:30 pm
by Guest
I admit, very occassionally it is acceptable to play FFA on a CTF server, but if that is the case, you do not need to see any individual scores, thus, I voted to abolish individual scores on CTF.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:51 pm
by khazhyk
on any CTF game alot of peopel care mostly about the FFA then the CTF, even if it's the most CTF encoraging map ever. if you remove the scoreboard that would be nice,because not so many people will care totally about their score.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:49 pm
by eagle
i agree, there shouldn't be a score on CTF.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:01 pm
by Hannibal
youre all guilty of it. dont say youre not.

youve made your way to the other teams base. someone approaches at you, fires some mid-range shots. they seem on target to pwn you if you dont stop. then, while your turning to face him, he fires again. thats FFA on a CTF server.

its just that some people do it more than others.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:09 pm
by khazhyk
noone ever said there should be no FFA on a CTF server, they're just saying on a CTF server play CTF too!

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:00 am
by Tropican8
I think its a horrible idea to get rid of player scores. In order to know if you are in a position to make a run for the flag you need a way of ensuring that there's a player with a high score that can cover you.

Or do most of you just tell your team to all make a run for the flag at the same time with no organization? True this happens a lot, but its not ideal, and that's not real CTF. CTF is about teamwork, knowing people's strengths and weaknesses. Some are better at dodging shots and running for the flag, others at taking out as many people as they can (but possibly dying in the process)

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:15 am
by Ice Wewe
Tropican8 wrote:I think its a horrible idea to get rid of player scores. In order to know if you are in a position to make a run for the flag you need a way of ensuring that there's a player with a high score that can cover you.

Or do most of you just tell your team to all make a run for the flag at the same time with no organization? True this happens a lot, but its not ideal, and that's not real CTF. CTF is about teamwork, knowing people's strengths and weaknesses. Some are better at dodging shots and running for the flag, others at taking out as many people as they can (but possibly dying in the process)

Listen to him, listen to reason! It comples you!

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:28 pm
by Spazzy McGee
Hannibal wrote:youre all guilty of it. dont say youre not.
yeah, we all are, i'm just thinking about encouraging CTF - you get servers where team flags are just treated like an optional extra, and people don't care.

I just think that taking away player scores all together is a better idea than trying to implement a system where individual points are awarded for flag capture.

Prehaps it could be made a bzfs option if you have -c, you can have -noscore too

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:15 pm
by Tropican8
Spazzy Mcgee wrote:Prehaps it could be made a bzfs option if you have -c, you can have -noscore too
That would actually be really good. Let the owners decide.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:53 pm
by Spazzy McGee
I wonder what Jeff thinks...

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:03 pm
by ^nightmare^
I think it needs to be a plugin...

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:19 pm
by Guest
... Why, exactly, can it not be a built in option for bzfs...?

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:22 pm
by ^nightmare^
CannonBallGuy wrote:... Why, exactly, can it not be a built in option for bzfs...?
...because i said so..... ;)

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:24 pm
by Spazzy McGee
Yes!

A command line option, make it '-noscore' or something.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:20 pm
by Night Crawler
If you don't whant people to have a personnal score for how much
tank they have killed, just allow them to have a flag capture score(like
for the kill but for the team flag) and you will see that everybody will try
to get the enemie team flag. Games like Bzflag work basically on score
because it's what interest the majority of player. They whant to show that
they are the best, don't you whant that to? I'm not the kind of player that
do everything to get the best score on the list, but i'm happy when i'm
the second or the third better player on the map... So give them a flag
capture score instead of just no score. :idea:

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:51 pm
by Spazzy McGee
just allow them to have a flag capture score
this has been said before, and flaws have been found, and lots of different systems suggested... all to no avail.

so just have the team scores, and no player scores. this is about teamwork, people!

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:20 pm
by Green Manalishi
No, That would be terrible! :doh:

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:57 am
by RPG
Green Manalishi wrote:No, That would be terrible! :doh:
wheeeeeeeeeee

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:31 pm
by MadHatter
I always have and always will feel that team scores are the only important fact on a CTF server.

Who cares who's the best killer on a CTF server, IT'S ABOUT TEAMWORK


I think it really is about time that "No player score" was at LEAST an option for CTF servers


PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE will someone introduce this

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:58 am
by BinarySpike
None of the devs will do this... I promise you...

If you want stuff done like this you have to show that everybody likes it... not just a stupid poll... and btw, that would require a client mod...:evil:

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:18 pm
by Green Manalishi
it's 18-14 for the conservatists anyway. long live individualism!













long live selfishness, camping, score-bragging!