llrr wrote:me1, what the hell are you on about. ok whatever if it's a privilege for one to join a server, but lag is in EVERY internet game, agreed? THEREFORE it is part of a game. It is only an issue when it's something that's only a problem for some and not a problem for others. Do you know that even two people who have very low lag still complain about "thru", "...", "that hit" etc. just read the that topic in the form. It cannot be omitted then it's part of the game. Therefore you are a noob if you can't deal with lag. How hard is it to just shoot a bit earlier, so you hit the other guy, use some logic and common sense. Whether you're able to adjust to different people with different lag then it's your own problem. You think how we all got into bz in the first place, did we go, oh too laggy we can't play, ok we won't play? NO, because we're not idiots like some people out there who only knows how to complain and not to just play the game and get over it, it's not a hard skill to learn. AND, i just want to stress this. Servers are set up for the world wide community. when i said it is a right i meant it is a right to join. PROVIDED that server is already there. obviously you can't join a server if it isn't there, but if it is then no one can stop you from clicking the join button. Whether you can play on it or not it's up to the server owners, and that comes into the lagwarn/kick system. If you really think constantly rejoining every 5mins won't screw up your game then i'd like to see you do that, EVERYDAY. Don't sit there pretending you know all this crap coz you don't, come into the same boat as us then you can tell me just what you think about it.
Believe it or not, in most internet games, as blast and I have both said, lag is an issue. If you have more than 200-250ms lag, you are always, and I mean
always, kicked or banned. Most servers in other games kick you if you are over 100-150ms lag, so don't say that they do not.
Also, if everyone has an issue, in this case lag, is it no longer an issue? If everyone gets sick, are they no longer sick? If everyone breaks a bone, is it no longer broken? No, it is still an issue, regardless of who is impacted.
Joining a server is not a "right" just because you can join it. To use a harsh example, I can go out on the street and stab someone, does that make it my right? No. I am able to walk down the street and walk into someone else's home, does that make it my right? No. You and me are both able to join a server, does that make it our right? No.
Honestly, if I had to deal with high lag, I probably wouldn't enjoy it, but I wouldn't decide that it's not a problem, and I definitely wouldn't turn around and say that it is an intended part of the game. Also, so what if people complain that shots go "through" at low lag? All that says is that either those players whine too much, or that, even at low lag, lag is still an issue.
You are right, it is not that hard to shoot ahead of a person and compensate for lag. However, lag being mostly unpredictable as it is, having to compensate for lag should not be, and is not an intended part of the game. In addition, while it is not that hard to simply "shoot ahead," remember that bzflag has jumping tanks. It is much harder to compensate for jumping tanks, tanks on different levels, and believe me, while it is not that hard to "shoot ahead," knowing when and by how much you should shoot ahead isn't easy.