Apocalypse In Action :: Planet MoFo

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Interesting idea. I would like to add:
1. Need to make external difference between bots and people like radar and real.
2. For each bot needs to randomly generate a ping (in normal range). It is necessary that it was difficult to shoot in each of them.
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Hello!
Plugin Idea? Make handicap score ranges? Just for conceptualizing.. not necessarily the ranges...

Scores of 300+, your tank/shots move very slow
scores of 51 to 299 tank/ shots move slower
Scores of -25 to 50, normal tank/ shots
Scores of -50, shots travel faster

or

Kill Streak of 25+ your tank/shots move very slow
Kill Streak of 15 to 24 tank/ shots move slower
Kill Streak of 0 to 14 normal tank/ shots
Death Streak of 10 to 0 fast tank/shots
Death Streak of more than 10 super fast tank!

I have no idea how to make a plugin, nor if this is possible.

One thing for certain is that spawn killing is effin rough right now. I get frustrated when it happens to me, and yet, I'll do it when I can :?
Also, it's complained a lot about in game, but I like it. The fancy jump from the base column to top of base for flag capping.... Lotta people hate it, those capable love it.
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Hi all,

On thing I've noticed is that some players complain about camping and a few minor things.

So a few ideas might be able to make it nicer.
1. 5 second delay for unfair teams to take effect.
(Srsly it's annoying when someone leaves just before you cap and you get a penalty for an "unfair" flag capture.)
2. Shot limits to certain super flags when teams are srsly uneven.
(Camping is fine, but when it's 2vs5 and 2 players have laser and one has gm on the larger team... it becomes impossible to play and some players rage quit.)
3. Unfair cap alert.
(Like if a player leaves and you're 1 second away from capping it will give an alert and give some time to prevent players from making an unfair capture.)

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It's a cool map. One thing to fix is the ability of jerks to bury team flags inside the support columns. This is a tedious annoyance that drives players away.

Also, the Reverse Geno antidote flag doesn't work. It looks like the countdown has been fixed, though; it blows you up at 0 instead of 1 like it used to.

We do need a solution for jerks quitting to make a cap "unfair." If the teams were fair when the capper gained possession of the flag, the cap should be deemed fair no matter what. This, coupled with a "teams unfair" warning when someone gains possession, seems like the simplest and most feasible approach.
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Some fun over the weekend.
Since the introduction of the multiple-shot flags, we've had the problem of sometimes (fairly often) somebody else gets the points for your kill. This is caused by the extra shots (which are actually world weapons) over-writing the shot-ID-numbers of previous shots. The way world weapons are handled by the server was updated, hoping to fix the scoring problem. But the four extra-shot plugins were not updated, and this gave us a problem of teamkills when they should not be possible. We even had observers getting teamkills. This leads me to believe that the server has been trying to give observers points for years, we just didn't know it.
So I back ported bzfs which fixed the teamkills but the scoring problem still exists.

Also, I killed off the reverse geno flag, it was almost always pure luck when you got the kill.
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So, does that mean Reverse-Geno is gone? I really liked that flag, even if it gave me a disadvantage.

But besides that, it was kind of funny watching random people that got killed from those world weapon bullets being killed by observers, teammates, or most of the time: "Destroyed by the server". However, the teammate kill thing was actually a surprise to me, as I only saw it surface recently. Hopefully that is fixed, but with more mb flags, people better be on the lookout. Concerning the unfair flag captures, WHAMMO's anti-F12 auto-ban plugin has helped in the past, banning those who f12 before a capture, and even if it suspects them but doesn't ban them, I've seen admins like disco ban them anyway since they were caught. All these things are here just to make the map more fair for everyone. Hope everyone can adjust to the 1-hour loss of sleep next weekend due to daylight savings. Happy spring, and keep battling!

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Yeah, the reverse geno flag is gone.

I have been asked to clarify geno-ratios, the "bait" plugin. But I don't want to release the exact ratios, because players will game the system.

# If a player has the number of minimum number of deaths AND their K/D ratio is
# less than or equal to ratio specified, genocide will not take affect.
# <minimum number of deaths>, <kill/death ratio>
10, lowest, redacted
30, higher, redacted
50, high, redacted

This means is.... it's all about kill/death ratio.
until you have ten deaths, you cannot be bait.
after ten deaths, if you have very few kills, you cannot be bait and avoid geno.
after thirty deaths, the ratio gets higher, you can have a few kills and still be bait.
if the newb sticks around long enough for fifty deaths, it's a fairly large ratio.
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I still don't see planet-mofo.com and specifically the Apocalypse map in the server list.
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I can see it in the server list now.
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Team-Flag-Genocide

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After six months of talking about it, and thanks to Allejo, we now have a change to Team-Flag-Genocide. It required a server mod that "finalizes" a player's death.

You must be alive to collect genocide kills.

This means:
1. When you fire a geno shot, but you die before that shot hits another player, no geno kills are collected.
2. When two players are both carrying genocide and shoot each other, only one will collect the extra kills.
3. It's a little bit easier to be aggressive against a geno carrier.

There will be some effect of lag here, but we don't think it will be signifigant.

Also, I expect to soon make some tweaks to how team flag captures are handled.
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I was just banned for "F12 abuse" when I was actually trying to balance the teams. 🙊
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It happens. The F12 detector does occasionally indicate false positives. Admins are not immune, It's even gotten me once. The auto-ban is not very long, but I have removed it.
Only leave while dead, (die before leaving) and you are 100 percent safe.

One thing though... the plugin remembers you, and now you're on it's @#$%-list, I'd be very careful for awhile, and eventually it will take you off it's list.
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Thanks for taking care of it. That's pretty funny that the plugin doesn't bother to check if you're an admin before banning.
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Hey! Not sure if this is the right place to post but, I hadn't really played for a few days (may have idly popped in for a minute?), but just tried to connect and got the message "Host banned for: canada (indefinite)".

I do indeed live in Canada. Is that not allowed, or have I missed something?
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Fuzzyfungal....let me look into that for you.
You are caught in a ban of another player.
Will forum pm you.
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CTF Overseer Plugin makes 25!

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The CTF flag capture bounties and the penalties for unfair teamflag capture were one of the original functions of the Apocalypse-In-Action plugin. Those parts of the APOC plugin have now been split off into a new plugin called CTF-Overseer. The new plugin has a configuration file which can be changed and reloaded at any time, no server restart required.

Now ALL capture bounties are announced to ALL players. (not just the penalty points)
The bounty/penalty point levels should be pretty much the same as it was. Uneven teams means higher points, positive or negative.
Verbiage of the messages displayed will be new. Now I can change bounties or messages at any time.

CTF Overser will be released to other server owners, but the APOC plugin remains a MoFo Exclusive. The APOC plugin doesn't do much nowadays, some of it's other original functions were split off awhile back.
MoFo was stuck at 24 plugins for over two years, but now it's twenty-five!

The only real way to test this new plugin is with full teams, so as of now it's untested.
I don't expect any major bugs, but it may be a few days until everything is configured exactly the way I want it.
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Also, there are warnings to those who pick up a teamflag with unfair teams.

Self-Capture of your own flag on the other base is now a variable. Self-Capture is now a thing, but I don't think that will last very long.

The plugin is working, but It will take a few days to perfect it.
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Hi Kierra
same issue for me ... I don't know why "canada" banned me.
Let me know if you can solve this problem
Thanks a lot, bye
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kierra wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:08 pm Fuzzyfungal....let me look into that for you.
You are caught in a ban of another player.
Will forum pm you.
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That's not who banned you. That's the name of a player that was banned. Sometimes to keep problem players out, a chunk of an ISP has to be banned. There are ways to whitelist specific registered users or in some cases an old ban can just be removed or modified.
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Uccio Taken Care of...
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Hi optic delusion,
I am also affected by "canada ban" and cannot log on since yesterday.
Can you help?
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"a loaf of bread" check your private messages.
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Hi ya,

I am also affected by canada ban :(
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OK tafkal, I will look into that for you.

edit: read your forum pm from me :)
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I am also affected by the Canada ban.
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