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List Server questions

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:26 pm
by trpted
https://wiki.bzflag.org/Private_List_Server

While that is nice talking about a LAN Server. What if I know of a public server that someone else owns and is not listed on the public list server?

Is it possible to run a private list server that get data from the public list server too ( https://wiki.bzflag.org/List_Server ) ?

I like going to Join Game -> Find Server and seeing how many players on that server without first connecting to the server.

To be more exact..

I would like to be able to go to Join Game -> Find Server, seeing the non listed public server(s) in there that I know about, seeing the other servers on the public list and seeing how many players on that server without first connecting to the server(s).

Please and thank you

Re: List Server questions

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:37 pm
by blast
Yes, it is possible to run an "unlisted" server that uses the list server. Adding '-advertise NONE' to a normal public server will make it show up for nobody, regardless of global group membership. Or, the -advertise option can be used to advertise the server to just specific global groups, so only registered players in those groups would see the server on the list. I believe '-advertise VERIFIED' can also be used to only show the server to registered players.

Re: List Server questions

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:52 pm
by trpted
While that is useful, thank you (Please do not delete/with-draw your post), when I asked the question:

I was talking about the client side connecting to a private list server, in turn the private list server connects to the public list server and any other public server that is not listed that I know about.

Thank you

Re: List Server questions

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:39 pm
by blast
I answered that. "Adding '-advertise NONE' to a normal public server will make it show up for nobody, regardless of global group membership." If it's not listed for you, it won't be listed for you.

Re: List Server questions

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:58 am
by trpted
Ok. Let me try again this again.

Can a private/LAN list server connect to the public list server - Yes or no?

Thank you

Re: List Server questions

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:04 am
by blast
No. It would be possible to run a custom list server, but it's not a trivial setup.

Re: List Server questions

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:28 pm
by trpted
Ok.

What about the future?

I see at https://wiki.bzflag.org/List_Server that you are going toward a system based on LDAP - something called BZAuthd

#1 Is it (or will it be) possible to run a BZAuthd private server?

#2 Only if so: Is it (or will it be) possible that the BZAuthd private server connects to the public BZAuthd server?

b) How trivial is it (or would be) to setup a BZAuthd private server?

c) How trivial is it (or would it be) to do the task number 2 listed in this post of mine?

Thank you

Re: List Server questions

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:45 pm
by blast
BZAuthd hasn't been touched since 2009. Honestly, I can't even remember how exactly it was designed. At the moment, I've playing around with a different way to handle authentication, since our current method makes it difficult/impossible to support IPv6.