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bzflag on the Nokia N800 / N900

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:35 pm
by a blue tank
I offer a kilogram of Swiss chocolate to anyone who gets bzflag running (to a usable level) on the Nokia N800 Internet Tablet! (OS2008)

UPDATED 22-Oct-2009:

I'll reissue the same offer for bzflag on the Nokia N900 (http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/) which comes with OpenGL ES 2.0 graphics acceleration (so no excuses anymore.)

Steering via the N900's accelerometer earns extra credit.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:48 pm
by blast
Would it have to have textures? ;)

The Nokia N800 does not have any 3D acceleration enabled. The 3D graphics chip exists afaik, but there are no drivers available that work with the kernel version they use. (I've been in the #maemo channel and overhead some of the discussions..but I may be wrong on that) The specs are also closed on the chip itself. So hardware acceleration is pretty much not gonna happen in the near future.

I had tried to compile MesaLib for my N800, and the compiler crashed at some point during the build processes. I was, however, able to compile TinyGL for the N800, and run the demo applications on the actual device. It wasn't fast, but it worked. TinyGL does not implement all of the functions (or specific parts of functions) that BZFlag uses. So it's not gonna be a drop-in replacement. And even if it did work, I doubt it will run all that well, even if we do pixel doubling.

So far, I had bzadmin and bzfs running on the device. The bzfs doesn't run very well, likely due to agressive power management. I didn't try to mess with the wireless power management settings. The jitter was quite high. But bzadmin worked well.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:38 am
by a blue tank
blast wrote:Would it have to have textures? ;)
The smiley makes me wonder if that is a serious question. However, to be sure, no, my offer does not depend on the support of textures.

Would that make a difference to the infomation in the rest of your message, which, to be honest, mostly went "whoosh" over my head? :-)

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:13 am
by Spazzy McGee
a blue tank wrote:Would that make a difference to the infomation in the rest of your message, which, to be honest, mostly went "whoosh" over my head? :-)
He basically said it might be possible, but it would take a lot of work and research to build a client, and even then it probably wouldn't run very nicely.

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:34 am
by Cruel dog
I know it's a bit out context, but since we talk bout running on things, would it be possible haiving a bzadmin like client on a WEB based thing? (no java, only php, html and cgi), so i could run bzadmin on a nintendo DS?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:40 am
by ducktape
Cruel dog wrote:I know it's a bit out context, but since we talk bout running on things, would it be possible haiving a bzadmin like client on a WEB based thing? (no java, only php, html and cgi), so i could run bzadmin on a nintendo DS?
IIRC, Someone got BZAdmin to run on a cell phone. i cant remember who at the moment.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:22 pm
by blast
http://bzflag.org/screenshots/

That has a screenshot of BZAdmin on a phone. I'm not sure if it was really running on the phone, or if that was just him SSH'ing to a Linux box through the phone.

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:35 am
by Janis
have you seen this ???

Little laggy to play but it works!!! =)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZwlvLYb9wQo

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:03 am
by Saturos
It's a fake.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:44 pm
by Janis
Saturos wrote:It's a fake.
Why do you think so?

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:51 pm
by Joe-Schmoe
TuttyFrutty wrote:
Saturos wrote:It's a fake.
Why do you think so?
Because he made it.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:53 pm
by Saturos
Pretty convincing, huh? :D

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:07 pm
by Simba
One day I asked Saturos where I could find the BZFlag program so I could try it on my Black DS.

He told me that it was a fake video that he made, and he played it on his DS.

I gotta hand it to ya Sat, that was pretty gosh darn convincing ;)

___


~Zaa

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:54 pm
by Cruel dog
would BZ work on a HTC touch?

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:46 pm
by khazhyk
Cruel dog
If you could find the SDK for it, I don't think it has OpenGL, and it has a touchscreen - meaning no buttons, so playing bzflag would be quite hard.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:06 am
by BinarySpike
Cruel dog wrote:I know it's a bit out context, but since we talk bout running on things, would it be possible haiving a bzadmin like client on a WEB based thing? (no java, only php, html and cgi), so i could run bzadmin on a nintendo DS?
It would be possible with Ajax, but I'm not sure if DS supports AJAX. (I know the Wii does)

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:23 pm
by blast
BinarySpike wrote:
Cruel dog wrote:I know it's a bit out context, but since we talk bout running on things, would it be possible haiving a bzadmin like client on a WEB based thing? (no java, only php, html and cgi), so i could run bzadmin on a nintendo DS?
It would be possible with Ajax, but I'm not sure if DS supports AJAX. (I know the Wii does)
It's possible with ways other than AJAX. For instance, look at the CGI:IRC. That works without AJAX.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:51 am
by Bambino
how about ipod touch? tilt to move and tap to shoot good or bad you could make a app and sell it on the app store

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:05 am
by blast
sniper15 wrote:how about ipod touch? tilt to move and tap to shoot good or bad you could make a app and sell it on the app store
Code it up. ;)

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:33 pm
by ducktape
As for bzadmin on the ds: http://dev-scene.com/NDS/DSVNC you might be able to get it to work with that. You have to have a flashcart of course. i'll see if i can get it and i'll post a video or something. And the new "Web based server admin" Will work on the DS.

Yay! I got to use BZAdmin on my IPhone 3G!

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:12 pm
by Cruel dog
Yup, like in the title, I've got to use BZAdmin on my IPhone 3G!.. It was with SSH, but Still! I could chat, & manage players on the go! :) It can be on Portrait, or landscape mode, just by turning your phone. I've posted a few screenies down here.. Hehe.. It's really useful when you need to be on to chat or administer, and you're away from home :) *Please don't use while driving! :P*

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:38 pm
by blast
Are you able to send an "F2" keystroke to bring up the menu for stuff like the player list?

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:59 pm
by Cruel dog
Hmm I couldn'T find how.. There has to be a way, but I dont know, I'm not fully familiar with that terminal app yet ;)

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:12 pm
by R3laX
BZAdmin on PlayStation Portable

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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:12 am
by lep
No way.

I check this site on my psp...how did u do tht (im 13 and dont know much about PC. but fairly enough)