Most useless flag ever

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Most useless flag ever

Poll ended at Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:21 pm

Identify (ID)
1
3%
Machine Gun (MG)
1
3%
Rapid Fire (RF)
1
3%
Seer (SE)
0
No votes
Genocide (G)
0
No votes
Phantom Zone (PZ)
8
28%
Useless (US)
18
62%
 
Total votes: 29

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Most useless flag ever

Post by asciimonster » Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:21 pm

I wandered what flag you usually drop directly after you grab it, because it just doesn't help you in any way. :) Please vote!

Personally I think Masquerade is more useless than the Useless flag will ever be! :wink:

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Post by WarPig » Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:33 pm

yeah phantom zones sucks. but useless is pretty bad

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Post by hookah » Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:51 pm

Phantom Zone is 100 times better than yours Useless flag.

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Post by Davy Jones » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:58 pm

1, Masquerade is GREAT on no-radar servers.
2, Masquerade is GREAT on Laser Sniping Servers.
3.PZ, USELESS !!!!!!!!!!
4, Useless is GREAT, just so your opponents know that they got shot with US

Well, PZ can be used rarely, but it still sucks
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Post by Zelgadis » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:04 am

PZ and US are useless :D
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Post by WarPig » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:10 am

how can somone vote for rapidfire!!! its amazing!! its like my favorite flag!!

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Post by Spazzy McGee » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:29 pm

You know not the secrets of US!

imho, PZ is less usefull. I don't know why it's not dropped from the game, I have not seen a single server that utilises it properly.
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Post by strayer » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:04 pm

Yeah...US is not as useless as you might think of it. ;o)
I like PZ because without changing to observer mode you can explore a map and you can confuse new players who shot through you and you are not exploding...
The only flag I really don't like is MG. The shot distance is too short to use the advantage of a low reload time, but that's only what I think of it.
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Post by A Vicious Muffin » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:40 pm

How can you even put Identify, geno, rapid fire, seer, and machine gun? Those flags are quite useful. (geno can get out of hand). Phantom zone isn't bad that much at all. It's useful for sneaking in behind enemy lines. The worst flag on there is useless, of course.
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Post by joevano » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:12 pm

Spazzy Mcgee wrote:You know not the secrets of US!
Never thought I would here that coming out of a Brit :p

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Post by birdie » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:38 pm

machine gun is one of the most powerflags with a long range, short range pretty much sux though

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Post by khazhyk » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:11 am

US(useless, not United States) if useful, because while the guy is checking if you have laser, SW or whatever, you kill him. :)

PZ is only useful on maps with lots of teles, or teles in crowded places. you pop into the Ghost realm, wait for someone to pass the tele, go through and, BAAAM!!! :P That never happens though, because no maps utilize PZ right, making it suck, but if they actually make a map for PZ, it'd be fine. The "goodness" of flags all depends on the map. PZ sucks because no maps use it right.
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Post by Zelgadis » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:37 am

@me1

You can do it with every flag, not only with us :P
And no one is checking what flag you have, when he is behind you, he will check it when he is 1km afar of you :D
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Post by Saber » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:54 pm

I think that PZ is the most useless flag but I'm not saying it's useless. Every flag has it's own use.

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Post by Geo Dude » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:18 pm

{janis} wrote:Phantom Zone is 100 times better than yours Useless flag.
is that a ood thing

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Post by A Vicious Muffin » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:51 pm

Yes, it is. Useless has no use. If you get it, immediately drop it, since it won't do anything for you. Phantom zone has an infinite amount of more uses than useless.

Useless uses: 0

PZ Uses: (whatever you want it to be)

Even if you multiply useless uses by itself an infinite amount of times, it is still worse than pz. (0xinfinity=0)
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Post by RexFlex » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:57 pm

strayer wrote:The only flag I really don't like is MG. The shot distance is too short to use the advantage of a low reload time, but that's only what I think of it.
It depends on the setting. If you play at Badgerking's, then MG is a bad flag to be up against because the shot distance is set much longer. In some ways it is more deadly than laser.
A Vicious Muffin wrote:Useless uses: 0
Not quite. One use is to foil a thief.
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Post by khazhyk » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:59 pm

you can grab useless so when you're travling on a platform to somewhere that has OO, and you don't want to get it or any other effects, grab US
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Post by A Vicious Muffin » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:50 pm

Well, how many times do I actually try to foil a thief? Not that many. Usually when I have thief, I try not to steal bad flags or the useless one. I use identify.
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Post by Teppic » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:52 pm

None of the flags are useless, Useless is great for harassing TH flag holders and PZ rocks at Two Towers. Geno is pretty useless on a 1 on 1 server though.

As for rapid fire, what's that doing in the list, on babel F leads to a 10-1 kill ratio for the next 2 minutes.

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Post by Geo Dude » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:41 pm

i still think pz is the most useless in my opinion cause if u zoned u can't kill but u can die so... 8) its retarded.and w/ useless u can kill and die so its still usefull

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Post by A Meteorite » Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:24 pm

Geo Dude wrote:i still think pz is the most useless in my opinion cause if u zoned u can't kill but u can die so... 8) its retarded.and w/ useless u can kill and die so its still usefull
You can kill other zoned tanks when you have PZ. Also, PZ can be quite useful for transport and harassment of tanks. US also has it's uses for faking people out that you have a flag.

And please, this is a forum, not instant messaging. You can type out the words fully and use a some grammar. It'd make everyone's life easier.
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Post by Geo Dude » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:51 pm

im just too used to it

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Post by whispershadow » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:56 pm

this is a no brainer!!!! useless is the uslessest and the second ussless flag is totally SE (its only useful if there are st and cloaked players) those are the two I always drop.

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Post by The Vet » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:41 pm

Heh,

Really, when you look at it, there really isn't such a thing as a 'useless flag'. Each flag can have its use, like US used for counter-THing, PZ for confusing opponents that fight by radar or for corrupting a GM lock so your teammates can take them out.
But other than that, I'm surprised flags like RF and MG made it on the list. Those are excellent close to mid-range weapons and actually give you an edge due to the high-speed shots and rapid reload rates. If you ever are fighting with those flags, get in a position where you can be as close as possible to your opponent and get them to jump/fall to reach you. And when you do fire your weapon, fire it in short bursts of one or two shots. This time, because the shots move fast, it's harder to dodge and you don't need to fire multiple shots.

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