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Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:58 pm
by Home Guard
I hav learned that GM can't lock onto a stealthed. But could if you found yourself pointing at a ST and fired as if using a conventional shot, and the missile hit the tank - would it kill it?

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:08 pm
by joevano
Depends on how close the tank is. GMs don't generally "arm" right away ( there is a timer server variable) but once armed it is a bullet and will kill anything it hits. So yes, you can kill ST with GM. You can even use a tank behind the ST tank to lock on and turn a GM toward a ST, making it theoretically possible to hit them behind a wall even (if everything lines up correctly).

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:35 pm
by Home Guard
Thanks joevano

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:15 pm
by KTL
Gm is still quite good against st.
Of course:
A. It doesnt lock as against normal tanks
B. doesnt ricochet like a bullet
C. doesnt go out of the barrel with added tank speed
D. doesnt work on targets too close

But
A. a missile is FAT, doesnt need to get as close as a normal bullet, might get tanks that normally are too low to be hit
B. opponent might underestimate GM seriously, does things he wouldnt do against bullets
C. on occasion, to lock on the right time a tank behind the st might throw the missile on the st
D. if really needed, a flag can be thrown away

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:36 pm
by macsforme
KTL wrote: But
A. a missile is FAT, doesnt need to get as close as a normal bullet, might get tanks that normally are too low to be hit
Are you sure about this? I thought GMs have the same characteristics as normal shells as far as hit zones.

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:47 pm
by joevano
I think it "feels" bigger because it usually sweeps through a space on an arc...

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:02 pm
by Yrogirg
Constitution wrote:
KTL wrote: But
A. a missile is FAT, doesnt need to get as close as a normal bullet, might get tanks that normally are too low to be hit
Are you sure about this? I thought GMs have the same characteristics as normal shells as far as hit zones.
Hmm, I was sure gm is fatter. From my experience on MW2.3 gm is just superior against st's. Maybe that's an illusion, but for me it's much easier to kill st with gm than with normal bullet.

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:35 pm
by Bambino
While I was playing on bloodbath a while ago I was driving down the freeway platforms towards the opposing team's base and a player was on the ledge a few units above it, he had gm and I had st. He sprayed a few shots above me and they continued to go straight (no lock on anything) and I died because of it. I asked him how and he said that gm has a slightly larger radius that makes it possible.

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:23 pm
by pastorT
Bambino, that would make sense... I use st a good portion of the time in MissileWars and there have been several times I was hit by a gm not necessarily aimed directly at me when a normal bullet would have missed.

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:41 am
by An SQUERRILz
GM shots aren't bigger than normal shots. If they were, a server variable would be appropriate.
Technically, normal shots and GM shots do not even have a radius.
GM shots have their strange behaviours too (I might get corrected for calling them bugs): having a GM shot inside you does not mean you will die; and I wouldn't be surprised if there was something involving fps too.

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:26 pm
by gravyfan
On the Stalingrad map when you have stealth and are in one of the little 'bunkers', you get killed if someone shoots a GM over your head. It is kind of annoying.

Re: Can GM kill ST?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:53 am
by Cobra_Fast
There is '_shotRadius' but as far as i know, it doesnt have any effect, as normal shots are handled as dots (points, not spheres).
It could be possible that GM is actually affected by this variable, but I'm not certain.