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BZEnviorments

Post by hutty » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:34 am

I started the site recently, (from code :D)

right now It has no domain name, and has some freewebs junk stuck on it because I have a free account.

the purpose of this site is to group and provide objects to aid map developers in making their maps more interesting. The site will include, environment kits (groups of objects related to a certain theme (such as a desert)), individual objects that work with a theme as well as alone, and map templates that will speed up simple processes (such as adding team basses).

currently all it has are a couple trees, but the site will grow.

please not that I am also using this to explore how prettyful I can make web-pages that still load fast on slow connections, so if every page has a different theme, that is why.

If anyone has objects they would like to add, just put them in the comments of this post.

this site is currently at http://www.huttymuncher.webs.com/webdy45/index.html

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Post by blast » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:02 am

Is it supposed to have anything useful on it?
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Post by Gamma » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:46 pm

If you have the source and didn't use the webs.com website builder I suggest using www.000webhost.com
its free hosting with no ads..
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Post by hutty » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:00 pm

wow, thanks.

the site will be moved to www.bzenv.site50.net soon.
but the transfer will take some time
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Post by Gamma » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:45 pm

huttymuncher wrote:wow, thanks.

the site will be moved to http://www.bzenv.site50.net soon.
but the transfer will take some time
Yeah, np man..

Oh and I forgot to mention, if you don't want your visitors to have to type in "bzenv.site50.net" when they visit you can go to http://www.dot.tk and rename it to "bzenv.tk" for free
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Post by Propane Tank » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:52 pm

I suggest yola.com
It's free has an exallent site builder, 1GB of webspace for files, and NO ADS! all for free, u can create up to five sites too. I use yola for my http://PropaneTank.webhop.net website. (aka bzflagmaps.webhop.net)
Also i used dyndns for the domain name. [http://dyndns.com]
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Re: BZEnviorments

Post by hutty » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:57 pm

Thanks propane, but I dopn't like to use site builders ;D (same reason all my maps are done from code)

now available at http://bzenv.tk
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Post by Propane Tank » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:11 pm

Oh, well I guess I'm the complete opposite of you. If I get the chance to use a site builder, I take it. The main reason is because I don't really know all that much of HTML and I don't really know CSS at all. The second reason is because to make your own pages you kinda need your own server, there are few companies that allow you to upload HTML, JSP, or PHP pages. Mainly because they want you to use their site builder.
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Post by Spazzy McGee » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:02 pm

You can buy domains for cheap as chips. If you're really serious about making this a quality website, it will gain you a lot more credibility.
No offense, I think you need to work on your graphic design skills a little bit.
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Post by blast » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:17 pm

Propane Tank wrote:there are few companies that allow you to upload HTML, JSP, or PHP pages. Mainly because they want you to use their site builder.
Wow, that's so wrong. There are hundreds of free hosts that allow you to upload raw files.

http://www.free-webhosts.com/power-search.php

Note that one problem with some free hosts is that they go away after a while, or quality is crap. I used to hop from host to host. I ended up getting sick of having to switch URLs constantly, so I got a real domain and got the "Tiny" hosting plan from A Small Orange. Not a whole lot of space, but it worked well enough for me and it's only $25 per year. :) (well, plus $10 for a domain name...)
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Re: BZEnviorments

Post by hutty » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:51 pm

the reason why I can't get a domain name, is I have no way of purchasing things over the internet.

no creditcard
no paypal
and my parents won't buy such things for me.

meaning I can't buy anything off of the internet, even if it only costs one cent. If I could buy stuff, I probably would have a whole stack of bzflag tee shirts by now.

but bzenv.tk is good and free.
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Post by Spazzy McGee » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:17 am

huttymuncher wrote:the reason why I can't get a domain name, is I have no way of purchasing things over the internet.
A bit OT, but surely you're old enough to get a debit card? Go down to the bank and set yourself up a bank account with a debit card. It's very useful, I got my first bank account when I was 13. I'm sure you'll end up needing one sooner or later, if you ever get a part-time job or something. The great thing about a debit card, unlike a credit card, is that you can't spend more than you have in your account.
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Post by Bambino » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:43 am

And adding onto what Spazzy McGee said, you can also link your debit card with a PayPal account so you can pay for thing online. One downside is that it takes time for money transfers to clear into your PayPal account, but transfers from PayPal to who you're buying from is instant, and safe.
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Re: BZEnviorments

Post by hutty » Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:49 pm

hmm, maybe i should look into this, I do have a part-time job (Mc Donalds :D), but I haven't gotten my first pay check yet (I started the job recently)

:!: also the site is
50% transfered
1% complete

:?: also would there be a problem with putting objects from the prefabs section of the forum on the site as long as i give the author credit, and follow the license's rules!
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Post by blast » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:41 am

Regarding the prefabs posted here - that shouldn't be a problem.
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Post by Cobra_Fast » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:40 am

huttymuncher wrote: :?: also would there be a problem with putting objects from the prefabs section of the forum on the site as long as i give the author credit, and follow the license's rules!
Just check the license of the prefabs... but in my eyes it doesnt make sense to post prefabs under private license :P
so as blast said, it shouldn't be a problem - but make sure you don't get in conflict with licensing stuff.

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Post by blast » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:56 am

He said "and follow the license's rules". ;)
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Re: BZEnviorments

Post by hutty » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:42 pm

good
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Re: BZEnviorments

Post by hutty » Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:27 am

update

90% transfered
2% complete
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Re: BZEnviorments

Post by joevano » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:27 am

huttymuncher wrote:update

90% transfered
2% complete
Just tell us when you are done... in fact it is better to wait until you are finished to tell us at all. Many projects of this nature never get finished, but generally they are announced here first and then die.
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Re: BZEnviorments

Post by hutty » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:43 pm

I was originally going to anounce it when it was done, but other people were anounceing that tey were starting projects, so I figured that I might as well anounce mine too.
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Re: BZEnviorments

Post by joevano » Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:41 pm

Yeah, everyone has enthusiasm at the beginning and when they think their idea is great. They want to tell everyone about it right away and that is a mistake. Finishing the project, after running into the difficulties and problems that always occur, is the real thing to share. Ideas are a dime a dozen, and they die easily even with the best of intentions. We will be happy to celebrate when your project is finished, everyone would be better off not to know about the failures. Look through these forums and you will find many people announcing websites that they are building related to BZFlag, and you can probably count on one hand those that have followed through to completion! I wish you good luck on your site and hope that you too are not one of the sites that disappears. I look forward to your announcement when you are finished, but I don't think we benefit from constant updates.
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Post by Spazzy McGee » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:41 pm

It's really hard to sustain a BZFlag website, simply because the user base is not big enough. There have been a sites stories that I can think of, that started off great - even ran for a year or two - before falling into disrepair. Pretty much everything, bar the league sites.

DW's BZW forum springs to mind, that was great - but it eventually died.
The MDG was great too. We kept that going through several incarnations. It eventually died.
And that's just the ones that made it to fruition. There have been countless little sites that either never made it past a couple of images on a free host service.

I wish you the best of luck, though.
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