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Hydrolysis by Maxwells Silver Hammer

Post by maxwells silver hammer » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:59 pm

Its like the frankenstein's monster of my boredom that came out suprising well i think.i know the middle is crowded but i think it should flow pretty well and thats why the top and outer edge is deliberately pretty empty for more open play. the links and everything should work too. i'm totally open to suggestions though so tell me if you think anything should be tweaked or just totally revamped.
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Post by Morfeusz_pl » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:07 pm

Nice map! 8)

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Post by ducktape » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:18 pm

wow that awesome keep up the good work
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Post by Grace F » Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:46 am

Can someone post a screenshot please :)
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Post by maxwells silver hammer » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:14 am

i took a few screenshots but for some reason its not letting me attach them so i'll do that once its fixed or something.
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Post by Grace F » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:38 am

K thanx :)
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Post by Legolas_ » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:11 pm

Here is a screenie of this complicated map
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Post by Red Cobra » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:26 pm

Whoa! Very complicated. Amost too complicated. Doesn't look that playable since you don't realy get a sense of where you are. Plus you couldn't really tell where you are according to the radar since there are so many levels. But, good job on thinking the design up. It's like a peice of art, but not that much playable.
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Post by macsforme » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:35 pm

Red Cobra wrote:Whoa! Very complicated. Amost too complicated. Doesn't look that playable since you don't realy get a sense of where you are. Plus you couldn't really tell where you are according to the radar since there are so many levels. But, good job on thinking the design up. It's like a peice of art, but not that much playable.
Possibly so, but personally I think that remains to be seen. Might turn out to be a lot of fun... definitely worth a try, I think.

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Post by maxwells silver hammer » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:16 pm

ok well every time i save a screenshot, it gets saved as a bitmap file and i can't get it on here, so if anyone has any thoughts on how to fix that that would be great.
so yeah, i know it's rly complicated, and i was kind of worried about that as i made it, because i basically just did it from the middle and worked out. but i think you'll find that the way its been made, it should actually turn out to be very playable. the jumping heights have been worked out so that should be fine.
and if you look closely theres really only like 2 levels. theres the open top and then the ground with some parts raised up that you can get to, everything else is either too big to play on or is designed as ways to get from bottom to top. i was worried however about steps and stuff interrupting gameplay so thats why the teleporters are there. if anyone thinks it would be a better idea to put in more tps i could maybe work that out.
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Post by maxwells silver hammer » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:17 pm

also does anyone think maybe this would be better as a ctf map? 4 teams would be a bad idea i think but maybe like one red base in the middle and 4 blue bases on the sides or something. i just feel like maps like that never really work out.
i think i'd probably prefer it as ffa, but i think its going to have to be play tested and just see how it goes. if anyone interested in running something like that that'd be really cool.
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Post by Grace F » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:34 pm

I think it's better iff a FFA. Though you should also change it every once and a while to a CTF just to see if it gets any hits.

I don't know why it's not letting you upload a bitmap image, im pretty sure I've uploaded 1 before. Anyway 1 way around is to save your screenshots and then upload it at a place like ImageShack - after the upload completes it spits out different URL's.

I don't think it's too complicated. I do however think it may get cramped - but that IMHO would make it more fun :)

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Post by CannonBallGuy » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:54 pm

You should be able to convert your bitmaps to nicer files anyway, such as gifs or pngs... Try MS Paint - it has to be good for something.
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Post by maxwells silver hammer » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:55 am

fianlly i figured out the fine art of screenshots. check em out, i dunno if the angles are the best since its hard to show the complexities and inner workings of the whole center bit, but i hope you get the idea.

screenie 1:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9850/hydosstf9.png

screenie 2:
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2173/hydross2er0.png

screenie 3:
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/9425/hydross3wd4.png

oh and thanks grace for telling me about imageshack, very helpful.
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Post by halo3 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:52 pm

holy crap dude nice map
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Post by ducktape » Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:05 pm

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Red Cobra wrote:Whoa! Very complicated. Amost too complicated. Doesn't look that playable since you don't realy get a sense of where you are. Plus you couldn't really tell where you are according to the radar since there are so many levels. But, good job on thinking the design up. It's like a peice of art, but not that much playable.
Possibly so, but personally I think that remains to be seen. Might turn out to be a lot of fun... definitely worth a try, I think.
I agree with Constisution; Spiral Zones didnt look playible the first time i saw it. With WINGS this could be awesome.

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Post by Grace F » Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:32 pm

I recommend Tadd too :P Or anyone else as long as it's in the US :)
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Post by ducatiwannabe » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:55 pm

I absolutely love the artistic qualities to this map. However, without playing it, it seems that the middle could be quite difficult to navigate if you haven't played bz a lot.

It looks good - I'm just curious as to playability in some areas.

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Post by maxwells silver hammer » Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:42 pm

yeah i know what you mean, i did some play testing yesterday and i'm planning on doing some things to fix it up and maybe clear out the middle. like for example the tall sectioned pyramids on the outside are meant for climbing, but the platforms don't extend out far enough so it's ridiculously hard to climb them. I'm going to see what I can do about the middle, its just hard to take things out at this point without messing with the symmetry. we'll see.
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adding a jump-through floor

Post by tadd » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:40 pm

Maxwell....
If you have a place where you want tanks to be able to go vertical you can add a panel that is passthrough only from the bottom. If you stack a few of these together a tank can drive under the bottom one and jump several times to climb to great heights, without wings.

Attached are unix and dos versions of a bzworld fragment showing an jump-up-ladder example.

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Post by khazhyk » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:02 pm

tadd
whats the difference between the two files?
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Re: adding a jump-through floor

Post by meeba » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:44 pm

tadd wrote:Maxwell....
If you have a place where you want tanks to be able to go vertical you can add a panel that is passthrough only from the bottom. If you stack a few of these together a tank can drive under the bottom one and jump several times to climb to great heights, without wings.

Attached are unix and dos versions of a bzworld fragment showing an jump-up-ladder example.

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Another way to do this would be two passthrough-by-bottom panels, one on the bottom, one on the top, and use a physics driver to send a tank upwards.

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Post by A Meteorite » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:05 am

me1 wrote:tadd
whats the difference between the two files?
The type of line endings.

Windows and *nix uses different line endings. Google it.
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Post by toms2005 » Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:47 am

beautiful map!! :shock: :shock:

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