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Ok anuther odd ball uestion is it possable to make glass? aka like make a block see throuth but cant shoot through?

thanx,
smartkid

You have to use a meshbox with a material:
I didn't test it, but try

C:\>"C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.4\bzfs.exe" -conf "C:\BZFS.conf"
using spam time of 10
using spam warn amount of 3
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 14): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 54): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 62): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 70): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 78): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 86): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 94): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 102): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 110): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 118): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 126): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 134): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 142): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 150): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 158): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping
c:\zap.bzw: warning (line 166): unknown object parameter "matref" - skipping

thats what i get in my DOS prompt ...

o wait nvm

works like a charm thanx

Edit your previous posts instead of making new ones. I believe it is considered smap err spam.

Here is how that works: You already know what R, G, and B do... in this case, makes the box gray. A is alpha, used for transparency. 0.5 makes the object 50% opaque, i.e. the pixel color is determined by half the object color and half the background color. For completely transparent glass you could use a value of 0, but then you wouldn't be able to tell that there was glass there unless you bumped into it.

Note that this will still cast a shadow. If you don't want your windows making shadows, add a 'noshadow' option into the meshbox.

To DJ Atomica: yeah your right, no one likes double posting I was just being lazy wont happen again

TO TD-Linux: thanx aton I needed to know that

WOW! Thanks TD, you helped me understand some of the man page. Can you translate/remake everything on there? (I'm not kidding)

I'll add it to the MapMaking WIKI tomorrow.

cool I remotely helped

I Strongly argue AGAINST using diffuse or color to create transparency. Maybe for one or two objects, but not more.

http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t ... ansparency
http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t ... ansparency

this effect becomes much worse if you look through several transparent objects at the same time.
I believe trepan is working furiously to fix this.

In the meantime try these textures, FPS slowness will disappear
http://images.bzflag.org/pmatous/transparent/
trans-25-50-75-100
I believe an entire map can be built around these three textures, make green objects drive-thru, red objects shooot-thru, blue objects both, purple objects your-guess-thru. And of course all of them are see-thru.
If you do the same thing with diffuse, your framerate will be about .02 fps.

diffuse 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.5

Bleah, I always use color 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.5...

argh, the map i'm currently working on is riddled with transparency issues.

A-Delusion wrote:I Strongly argue AGAINST using diffuse or color to create transparency. Maybe for one or two objects, but not more.

The map that i was working on is giving me a hard time,
Basicly the glass looks horrible how it is (everything glass) and what i wanted to do with my lasers dident work, who knew firing 100+ world laser weapons lags a server?

and also I spent 5hours making a core with a 16 sided shape to find out that BZF can render circles but BZEdit cant, so now im going to have to scrap my work and redo 70% of the map

and after that I have to figure out why my spawn zones arnt working right!
I dont even know if i should continue...

Basicly the glass looks horrible how it is (everything glass) and what i wanted to do with my lasers dident work, who knew firing 100+ world laser weapons lags a server?

A map entirely of one texture (depending on the texture) can look pretty sick. I found that out with a snow map I tried to make once :/

As for world weapons...if you're trying to fill a place with a laser and one laser doesn't do it you could use math and set up ricos :/

yeah i tried that but dumped the idea, this map is getting dumped it wasent a good idea, it looked good on papper and in BZEdit but in the real game it sucks... im going to think of a dare I say a ""((([[[[ Simpler ]]]])))"" FFA map.

Im a complex person, monney says this map will still be big
BUT I think im just going to do it in BZEdit, screw notepad

For the glass, use my semi-transparent textures. You can still use color, just make sure the alpha stays 1. Some other hosted textures are also transparent. This comes to mind... http://images.bzflag.org/yallaire/one/evil1_grates/

I've never known anyone who hasn't been able to figure out spawnzones without a bit of work.

BZEdit can only take you so far. It's good for overall layout, but there's no way to do some advanced concepts without good old text-editors. I do everything in text.

What troubles are you having with your spawn zones? Maybe we could help...

ducatiwannabe wrote:What troubles are you having with your spawn zones? Maybe we could help...

the zones arn't hard, but the level is completely water logged at the botom so I want someone when killed to spawn back on there base at 10 height

So i made 4 zones the exact demintions of the bases and put them in the map and they partly worked. When you spawn you are in the right area but your at 0 height so you sstill die becuse of water

heres one of the spawn and base code:
as for the glass ill try out the textures and see what happens

Are you sure your allowing tanks to spawn on buildings in your conf? -sb
If not that try making the zone 1 unit square. Looks like it should work to me.

i'm not sure what you guys are talking about with glass
but i made a map called glass menagerie and i used
color with a texture & it worked perfect....like this:

material
name alpha_glass
texture CLOUDS
notexalpha
color 1 1 1 .001
end

try it or get my map on my site
and look at it...

100% seethru...