Section 4: Team rewards and penalties

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Post by tokimi » Tue May 16, 2006 1:53 am

Section 4: Team rewards and penalties

I have referenced this section several times, and it is my hope to give some
new suggestions for keeping teams and players around. My premise here is to
create a more rewarding atmosphere in the league. As it stands, the league
offers a single source of reward, team points. Beyond that, any further
gratification is left to the personal desires of the players. What I think is
that there should be more than one way of showing recognition to teams.


Activity rewards
The current system is to reward winners of matches, and of course the losers
take their medicine (yes yes, you can pass on the flack, I could care less).
We are trying to get teams more active, so it would seem useful to present
another ranking based on the number of matches played. Either per month, or
lifetime, or both! Rewards can be either a rank, or as is seen in the bzbb,
recognition in the form of special titles. Now I think it would be prudent to
start such a system on an even ground, such that all teams start at the same
level (even the older ones). After that, let things run their course, and the
teams who are most active will get their own recognition even if they loose
each game.


New teams
It is also possible to have a "new team of the month" competition, where teams
(probably younger than 2-3 months?) have separate comparisons and place of
recognition. This way they don't have to stair at the rankings and wonder how
they can ever catch up with the top teams.


Starting teams up
To bring in [dmp]'s post, specifically the
section on jr teams. Where we have all new teams starting out with a jr
ranking, and after a set number of matches, new members, or age, they gain
"full team" status. I'm not sure this is the way to go about this. New teams
probably would not like being looked down like that. Maybe its just me, but
that doesn't sounds like a fun prospect.

I do like [dmp]'s idea on, after a team plays a number of matches, gets a
system and forum post celebrating the fact. This could even be extended to
the 50th, 100th, 500th matches and beyond.

really, what I am trying to present here is the idea that the league itself
gives recognition and awards teams, especially ones that are not yet in the
close knit fold that the older teams are in. Any way we can make new teams
feel welcome and wanted is a bonus to the league, and to those teams.


MVP
Ducati league is a team sport, and so the individual is not really
considered nearly as closely as the team is. As is rightly so! How ever,
teams are built of individual players, and some thing should be done for them.
As is popular in professional sports, a "most valued player" award could be
considered for a bi yearly (after the team scores are reset, assuming that
plan is instituted) award. It could be a team vote, then move to a league
wide vote on who the best, and most useful team player is in the league. Of
course stringent conditions would have to be set, but thats neither here nor
there.
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Post by SportChick » Thu May 25, 2006 2:04 pm

I'm posting this on behalf of Zongo (for the original conversation, check the May 25 #dub logs):

Concerning players:
IMO it is important to record who played a game and to vote for a mvp each game. It can also be a nice thing to have a CTF stats for players (number of flags captured by a player during a game).
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Post by sussi » Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:30 pm

how to record which seperate player did a match?
Via the /official command? My frequention statistics shows that i played on the 18. May 113 hours.

Here schould be a list of matches for the given player.
Last Match in days ago, Number of Matches, win/loose ratio, activity ratio, just statistics as mentioned earlier.

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Post by tokimi » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:51 pm

I doubt it would be much to add more fields in the "enter match" page in the
website, including players of the match (and of course we take care of the
fact that there can be subs).

ooooh mistake!! howsabout helping out here again :P Point is that there is
alot of work still, so we pick the battles we need to fight at the moment.
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Post by mistake » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:01 pm

I doubt it would be much to add more fields in the "enter match" page in the
website, including players of the match (and of course we take care of the
fact that there can be subs).
Actually, i am just busy with that :)
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Post by tokimi » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:16 pm

ah, you read my mind! good foosy, now where were you going to post
your results for the rest of us to admire your work? ;) And do you need
any help with that? Plenty of PHP coders out there to give a hand :)
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Post by SportChick » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:42 pm

It would be nice to have a plugin that would automatically record and report the players who played a match. Anyone up for the challenge?
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Post by tokimi » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:49 pm

Actually, [dmp]'s "ladder" plugin records alot of information from a match,
maybe it could be taught to list when and what players join each match!
That would certaintly take care of some of the information problems.
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Post by [dmp] » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:17 pm

I'm up for it. I was already thinking about what feature that would be nice for such a plugin. Depending on the decision of cap-limit / matchtime, the plugin could "help" wth this too.
I don't need huge pictures here.

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