Flag grab through wall

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Flag grab through wall

Post by clarahobbs » Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:02 pm

I was just playing on Missile War 2.3, and I discovered that flags can be grabbed through thin walls. Some players think it's a cheat, but others don't. Please tell me what you think of this (tactic/cheat).
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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by Bambino » Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:08 pm

It's hack-ish, but seeing as how it's coded into the client, it's a tactic. It's the flagGrabRadius that does it. I've done it once before but it was tricky and had to be almost against the SB wall to grab.
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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by lep » Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:30 pm

Bambino wrote:Its the flagGrabRadius that does it...
If the reason to this is a BZDB variable, it cant be rated as a cheat, because the administration can change it to their liking...I say tactic

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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by Grace F » Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:13 pm

It's a tactic, IMO.
It's even used in leagues wherever possible. :)

Same thing goes for "shooting through" walls.
To those who don't know what that is: If an opponent is right up against a thin wall, they are able to be shot from the other side provided your accuracy is precise. :roll:

I think I did this to Badgerking at his map with laser, I was scared he was going to get suspicious. :wink:
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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by Zac » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:08 pm

lol. its very hard when your lagging as well. i id it to a few people in the league. gotta sorta predict it. :wink:

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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by blast » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:07 am

Solution would be to either tweak the above mentioned variable, or make the wall thicker. I don't plan on doing either.
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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by Bambino » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:04 am

Just don't put your team flag near the wall :wink:
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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by JeffM » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:49 am

we will attempt to address this in version 3.0

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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by lep » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:54 pm

Bambino wrote:Just don't put your team flag near the wall :wink:
Hahahahaha :doh: I'll remember that next time I hide a flag!
JeffM wrote:we will attempt to address this in version 3.0
I think this would be a good idea, but if the issue is related to the server, how is it possible to edit it via a client version? Correct me if I'm wrong...I'm not a developer

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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by JeffM » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:17 pm

3.0 is more then a client version, it is a server version as well.

the flag pickup on 2.0.x is actually done by the client.

in 3.0 it is done by the server, we simply had the server see if there is anything in between you and the flag before it gives it to you.

2.0.x and 3.0 are totally incompatible, you can not use a 3.0 client on 2.0.x server or vice versa.

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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by lep » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:42 pm

JeffM wrote: 3.0 is more then a client version, it is a server version as well
Ah, I was unaware of this change. In that case, it is a good idea

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Re: Flag grab through wall

Post by Quantum Tank » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:42 am

JeffM wrote: in 3.0 it is done by the server, we simply had the server see if there is anything in between you and the flag before it gives it to you.
Might there be a way to disable this feature on certain servers? Picking up flags/shooting "through" walls is a tactic used fairly often in the GU leauge, and I know some people wouldn't be very happy to see this tactic taken out and have league strategy change.

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