smoooth wrote:Has it crossed your mind that I might NOT be only person? Even slime expressed above anything with the word "auto" in front of it, is not a good idea -- and I completely agreed. (macros and other auto things should be disallowed if outside the game)
Yes; and the only way I can judge that is by what I hear from other people (which is one of my responsibilities as an admin to listen to). Slime's quote was in the context of patches, while you used it in the context of external tools or drivers (e.g., setpoint). I would generally agree that code modifications
to do things automatically (e.g., aimbot) are not good for the league. Why autospawn is in the whitelist, I do not know, but at the same time I don't know of a single person who uses it.
My point as that if you want to see rules changed, you're going to have to more than express your own opinions. If you really have the backing of like 50% of the league, you will have to demonstrate that or we will be left to believe that few people really want the changes you're proposing.
Personally I find it intriguing when people play with configurations and drivers/tools to do cool things nobody thought about before (obviously "new" things that are degrading to gameplay, like the discovery of the F5 trick, are not beneficial and are outlawed after being discussed by the admins)
You are funny Constitution
smoooth wrote:-- this is the second time in this discussion that you've asked a question and then disputed/answered it yourself. Here you say "new tools and tricks are good" then you say "new" things like "F5 are bad or degrading to game play." This is the exact point. Yes, F5 is illegal and bad. Now lets imagine if you have other "tools" that do things like F5 but don't ever tell anyone and are never made "illegal". This will give a person unfair advantage. This is why we have to limit things which open up the opportunity to degrade gameplay.
If you read what I said more carefully, I was not saying that all new tricks are degrading, but rather that the ones that are
degrading are the ones that are brought up for discussion and then outlawed. I made a general statement and then added a parenthetical qualifier, which is not a contradiction. It seems like you are claiming that mouse macros are as degrading to gameplay as jittering around with F5. If that is the opinion of the majority, you are welcome to try to demonstrate that. Personally, I disagree with that assertion... unlike F5, using a mouse macro only makes a repeated tank action easier to do consistently, and can generally be replicated (albeit perhaps with difficulty) in normal gameplay.
So really... does anyone want these significant changes to the rules besides you? As I've said before, I've not heard a complaint about mouse macros from anyone
other than yourself. That pretty much puts that idea in context for me... how about you?