GU League Player Poll - 20 min matches

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I am voting for opt. 1, my opt 4 will never happen unless a new league is formed. T
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option 1
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Agh, so many people changing votes. :P Please, consider your vote carefully and then cast it! :) Good points, all.
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1. im leaving gu if its 2
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I strongly tend towards #1.

Regarding option #3: Chances are teams will get less points and less activity for shorter matches (otherwise we will end up with #3 being equal to #2).
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I go for option 1 also for reasons stated allready above (which is good that it is allready written down, than i dont have to ^^)
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option 3.
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Option 3 - I don't think 30 minute matches will die when 20 minute matches come up. I'm often quite pressed for time and am not able to play the full 30 minutes, but when I have the time to do it, I will generally play for 30. I don't see the viewpoint of players saying that 20 minutes will damage the integrity of matches; if you don't want to play 20, you don't have to. The other option, in my opinion, is restricting the 20 minute option to 2vs2 matches only, because you can do a 2 out later on in the game if one player doesn't have time for it. Just a suggestion
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Option 1.
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"20 or 30 min match?" - just one more point teams may disagree about. Choice is not always good. It actually may split the league and make it harder to get matches going. Option 1.
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What about making a 'Postponed Matches' page on the league site, where a referee can enter a match that is postponed for whatever reason. The reason most people don't usually like postponed matches is because they are almost always forgot about. So, if a certain player only has 20 minutes to match, everyone can agree to do a 20 minute match and then enter it to the 'Postponed Matches' list, and it can be finished at a later date and deleted from the page.

Just food for thought, but for ducatiwannabe's sake, I will vote for Option 1.
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I'd say #1.

Those last ten minutes are what make the matches exciting for me. I can't say how many matches I've seen or participated in have been decided in the final seconds...playing 20 minute matches would make me have more of a sense of urgency I don't think I'd be comfortable with, in my opinion.

Plus, I don't think cutting the time to accommodate more players pressed for time will make all that much of a difference-20 minutes is still a significant amount of time if you're running a tight schedule. Make time for your BZ! ;)
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Option 3! Best Option i think C:
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option 3
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Option 3
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#1
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While i switched my vote from #3 to #1 for reasons stated by qd and rb2. Let me qualify my vote.
Personally, at my skill level, 30 min matches are tortuous to play...every time i get sucked into one, I swear it will be my last. That's the way some feel that are less skilled when pitched against a skilled team. Now don't lecture me about the gu learning curve and striving to get better through matching better players - I could tell you what i think of that but bzbb will censor it - Tired of that lecture. That said, I can see the draw for a 20 min match.
BUT. if you get 2 skilled teams playing, then a 30 min match is a must - for so much can change in just a few minutes...as both rb2 and qd have already stated. Plus it's exciting to watch 2 equally strong teams matching.
SOOOO...to appeal broadly across all skill levels (and not lose more players), have both times, with point modification for the time as recommended by this player:
if you give the option of 20 minute matches, make them only count for half as many points as 30 minute matches (instead of 2/3rd as many points) so that there is a large penalty for the shorter duration.
This would be the only way I would vote for #3 and think it is the BEST option. Even make the point 1/3 for 20 min if need be.
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Good point, Kierra.

I may add that for quite a handfull players the points arent really important, so only getting (or loosing) 1/2 or 1/3 of the points wouldnt be a problem.
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I vote for option 3. If possible, I would also like to see 1/3 fewer points awarded for a 20 minute match as opposed to a 30 minute. I believe this would encourage newer players/teams to play more matches, since it is difficult to continue playing when you are down by a large margin. At the same time, more experienced players/teams would be more willing to put more on the line with 30-minute matches. If a longer match cannot be agreed upon, you can always match twice. :) Also many people simply cannot do 30 minute matches at all or at a given time if they have an engagement to fulfill, so this would allow them to fit an official match into the smaller period of available time.
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Option #1
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Option 3 is my base choice, but I think there should be conditions attached, some suggestions:

-I agree that 20 min matches should be weighted less with activity and point changes.

-I think there should be some consensus to make it a 20 min match, probably a unanimous decision.

-Also, make a bigger penalty for having to leave a 20 min match, i.e. where a 30 min would be postponed, a 20 min would be forfeited (with the lighter losing penalties however).

-Perhaps if there are more than 2 players per team then it has to be full duration.

Hopefully this will allow people who don't have time for 30 mins (like me :)) to match more often, but discourage a "split" in the league. I can see how this might create conflicts but hopefully it will be beneficial in the long run.
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who voted 2 plz change vote to opt 3. i would vote 2 too but no way it is gona win..
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Quantum Tank wrote:-I think there should be some consensus to make it a 20 min match, probably a unanimous decision.
Match terms already have to be unanimous anyway, since all players have to agree to the match to begin with. :)
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option #1
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