The Lair - CTF

[iObserve]

I posted this in maps in progress. Now after staying up way to late, it is complete!
My skill level is not high enough to ever put this up. But I would appreciate it if someone would!

Thanks, Enjoy!

Gollum

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

[macsforme]

thelair.png

(759.18 KiB) Not downloaded yet

[ducatiwannabe]

This has kind of a Secret place vibe. Should be great as FFA too.

[iObserve]

DW lives!!!

[kierra]

DW lives!!!

I'll believe it when i see him on a server :D:D:D:D
MW2 ftw!

[iObserve]

Help Wanted:

When I made this map, my knowledge of material/Textures wasn't fully accurate. The good note, the map is hosted by allejo. Bad note, the blocks all look like crap.
Now, if I had time, or knew much anymore about configs I would totally fix this problem. Buuuut I don't.
So, if anyone is willing to kill some time, and wants to edit this config, pm me and I can send it to you.
Just hoping to get the map to a pleasant look, so people actually enjoy it.

Server: Bzflag.allejo.io 5137

[trpted]

#1 I took your file.

#2 Reordered so all of the teleporters and links are near the bottom of the file, it is easier on my eyes to find them.

#3 I also removed all of the spaces for the teleporter names.

#4 However I have a question / I need some help.

a) Each of the teleporters I can't just drive through, I have to jump through.

Example

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teleporter mid_bottom
	position 0 0 0
	rotation 0
        size 0.125 20 25
	border 0
end

teleporter middle_top
	position 0 0 150
	rotation 0
        size 0.125 20 25
	border 0
end

link
  from mid_bottom:f
  to middle_top:f
end

link
  from mid_bottom:b
  to  middle_top:b
end

link
  from mid_top:f
  to middle_bottom:f
end

link
  from mid_top:b
  to middle_bottom:b
end

b) Other than link from middle_bottom to middle_top, the links are broken.

Thank you

[Zehra]

I'm not exactly sure, but I'm assuming you wish to be able to use the teleporter without having to jump.
If so, you will very likely need to lower/raise the teleporters and make some adjustments to them.

I'm not sure if this will help, but try commenting out the 'name' field from the teleporters.
This can be done by placing the '#' sign in front of the line you wish to comment out.
(This may fix the issue with the links to teleporters not working.)

One final note, you will very likely wish to add the following options to the map:

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-c
-ms 3
-j
+r
-mp 0,20,0,0,20,20

If you need additional help, feel free to contact me by private message too.

-Zehra

[trpted]

#! I'm not exactly sure, but I'm assuming you wish to be able to use the teleporter without having to jump.
If so, you will very likely need to lower/raise the teleporters and make some adjustments to them.

#2 I'm not sure if this will help, but try commenting out the 'name' field from the teleporters.
This can be done by placing the '#' sign in front of the line you wish to comment out.
(This may fix the issue with the links to teleporters not working.)

#3 One final note, you will very likely wish to add the following options to the map:

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-c
-ms 3
-j
+r
-mp 0,20,0,0,20,20

#4 If you need additional help, feel free to contact me by private message too.

-Zehra

I numbered your comments so that it can it easier to reply to.

#1 While researching what it means that I can't just drive through, I saw that.

#2 Not sure if that is required, but that is one of the things that I did.

#3a Was already aware / figured out it was CTF by searching the file for the word base and looking it said anything about what team color.

#3b and 3d Good suggestions

#3c Of course required to jump - otherwise, I would of gone nuts about the teleporters not working at all.

#4 Will do, including the whole map file with all mods/changes that I made. Not sure of why the links were just numbers. Link 1 to 2..

[trpted]

In the meantime as I wait a reply from the author or helper(s), I spot a problem with the teleporters.

a) First after I downloaded the file, I put all of the teleporters and links at the end of the file so that it is easier to view all of them together.

b) I told my web client/browser to view the file on HD. For example

file:///home/my-user-name/.bzf/worlds/ctf/links_need_f/org-links-and-teles_CTF-Gollums-Lair.bzw

c) I used the built in web client/browser search function to search for teleporters.

d) This is what I found, never mind the details where on the map (position, rotation, size).

#1 7 entries called Teleporter copy 1

#2 6 entries called Teleporter copy 2

#3 3 entries called Teleporter copy 3

#4 Need I go on?

Psst/Hint It would help that all of the Teleporter are unique.

If I was the author, no wonder why the links do not work.

[trpted]

Correction to the teleporter

#1

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teleporter middle_top
position 0 0 151 # raise by one unit
rotation 0
size 0.125 20 25
border 0
end

and two new links

#2

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link
  from red_low:b
  to red_top:b
end

link
  from purp_low:f
  to purp_top:f
end

So not to confuse people, here is the whole file - included.

[trpted]

While I know I can re-edit my post, I will not instead create a new post.

#1 Add in

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link
from North_W:f
to South_E:f
end

link
to South_E:f
from North_W:f
end

link
from North_E:f
to south_W:f
end

link
to south_W:f
from North_E:f
end

#2 For

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teleporter south_W

This is what I have so far

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teleporter south_W #this one not linking to NE for some reason.
position -395 395 23
rotation -45
size 0.125 20 25
border 0
end

Upon reflection, there is always two links that work one way. They do not work the other way, for some reason....

For testing reasons only, I will move them to 0 (ground level).

[EDIT] Even at ground level, one way teleporter links.

teleporter south_W #this one not linking to NE for some reason

teleporter South_E #this one not linking to NW for some reason

[trpted]

Another update.

#1 Was pointed to Convert BZEdit Teleporter Links - now online!

#2 Used it and converted the map.

#3 Raised one teleporter (the one that was at position 0 0 150)

[iObserve]

They worked at the time this map was up. This map is no longer hosted, and I rid it from my pc awhile ago.

[Zehra]

There is a good reason for that, as there was some differences to the one hosted and the one released.
Most notably one was textured and had physics, while the other didn't.
I think that one was later modified a bit and put back online as the textures were local and didn't appear on other clients.

-Zehra

[iObserve]

That wasnt my point. lol.

[Zehra]

It wasn't your point, but I wanted to clarify a few things.
First of all, the map released here had several differences from the one hosted. (It is the same map, but I felt the need to clarify that part.)
Secondly, the part is of the links working, the hosted version had working links, however the one released here did not.
Thirdly, the part of the options from the map file are also missing.
(So it just can't simply be hosted 'as is' unless one wants to have a FFA map without jumping, ricochet and single shot only.)
It's trivial for a mapper or a server owner to make the adjustments needed, but it will likely confuse anyone who hasn't done this before.

-Zehra

[iObserve]

The main reason this map was taken down, was way beyond the textures. The shots and everything were fine and set by allejo on his end. We had it all figured. But this map needed structural changes that I didnt have the time, or want to make. I gave up on this map for that reason, not for textures or shots.