Camelot - Released

[LouMan]

Attached is the Camelot map .bzw file (zipped). It is being hosted on louman.homelinux.net:5154, but as usual I would like to see if someone could host it on a better connection

It should be noted that this map is pretty heavy on the graphic engine and if a client is not running decent video hardware, fps will be low on this map.

There are also a few more screenshots attached.

[Guest]

You
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[M1A2AbramsTank]

I played the map and absolutly loved it, the only prob is the tunnel, it's hard to understand when u try to find your way after u go into the wrong teleporter.

[toaster]

LouMan,

This map is pretty cool. I like the tunnels effect, too.

One problem: takes 32 seconds on the average from "join" through download of all the textures, most about .5MB, till I get joined. Most of the time, I get "game full" after all the wait, and get dumped out. The downloadable textures are a bit large. But the stones, for example, in the textures used on the walls of the castles, are rather large. Some of them look about 3 times the size of tanks, although that could be just perspective.

I think some shrinking of textures and texture files would help.

[trepan]

toaster: what are your cache settings?

you should not have to download the same
textures each time you join that map. I get
into the server in about 2 seconds (and
that's mostly octree processing time)

[LouMan]

I have trouble with updates every time too. I have my "automatic downloads" and "connection updates" both set to "on", but it still downloads the textures every time. I tried changing them around to no avail. I am running a Windows client - does that make any difference? I wouldn't think that it would...

Any suggestions?

[LouMan]

Also, I noticed that the textures are being stored in my "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My BZFlag Files\cache\http\trepan.bzflag.bz\tiles" directory - is this correct?

[RPG]

Yeah, I have images stored in my cache too but every time I go to visit the map again it re-downloads them.

[trepan]

Do you have "connection updates' enabled? If so, try turning it off.

[LouMan]

I have tried it several times with "connection updates" turned off, but it still downloads them every time.

[LouMan]

Attached is Revision 1 of Camelot. Changes include:

1) added normals to all vertices
2) corrected several spawn within building issues
3) sealed center tower with colored windows

There are a couple of screenshots attached as well, showing the effect of the normals, windows, etc.

[LouMan]

Oops,

Forgot a few physics settings on the previous attachment's map. Sorry - here is the 'real' Rev. 1.

[LouMan]

Oh I must be tired. Messed up again (forgot to change over texture urls) - wish I could remove my previous messages

Here, I hope, is the last post of Rev 1.

Very sorry.

[LouMan]

Ok, after talking with Master trepan, it seems that I have royally screwed up the normals in these maps. I will be going back to the drawing board with them, so, for now, Rev. 1 is defective. I will release Rev 2 when I have figured out how to correct these issues and I have thoroughly tested it. Again, sorry for the multiple msgs

[toaster]

toaster: what are your cache settings?

you should not have to download the same
textures each time you join that map. I get
into the server in about 2 seconds (and
that's mostly octree processing time)

I'm using the defaults in the 2.0.2 Win build:

Server list cache: 1 day

Cache size: 32MB

Automatic Download: On
Connection Updates: Off

[LouMan]

As far as I can tell, I have corrected the previous errors with Rev. 1 and I have attached it for hosting purposes.